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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Lol is it broken or did you upload the wrong gedmatch number? The calculators I put it in gives out like 80 - 85% NE_European or similar which is kinda extreme.

    MDLP World 22:
    It's ok. But K36 was chosen by Vadim Verenich who originally uploaded .bam files



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    My new K36 nMonte results with Kow22 added:

    BA_Sudovia_RISE598 22.40
    BA_Hungary_BR2 21.00
    IA_Hungary_IR1 19.35
    MA_Slavic_RISE568 11.00
    BA_Cuiavia_PLN17 10.50
    MA_Slavic_Niem34 10.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow55 5.40
    IA_Wielbark_Kow22 0.35

    IA_Sarmatian_I0575 0.00
    IA_Gladiator_3DRIF26 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF18 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF23 0.00
    IA_Gladiator_6DRIF22 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI1 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI4 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow25 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Mas5 0.00
    MA_AngloSaxon_HS3 0.00
    HG_Ethiopia_Mota 0.00
    HG_Australia_Abo 0.00
    BB_Czechia_RISE566 0.00
    BA_Silesia_RISE150 0.00
    BA_Silesia_RISE154 0.00
    BA_Czechia_RISE577 0.00
    BA_Czechia_RISE586 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0803 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0099 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0047 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0116 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0164 0.00
    BA_Hungary_BR1 0.00
    BA_Hungary_RISE373 0.00
    BA_Hungary_RISE374 0.00
    BA_Denmark_RISE276 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE397 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE412 0.00
    IA_Scythian_I0247 0.00
    IA_Sweden_RISE174 0.00
    MA_Iran_I1955 0.00

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    BA_Cuiavia_PLN17 BA_Hungary_BR1 IA_Wielbark_Kow55
    16.19202 17.58834 21.94205
    BA_Denmark_RISE276 BA_Hungary_BR2 BA_EastGermany_I0116
    21.99232 23.60180 23.68750
    IA_Sweden_RISE174 IA_Hungary_IR1
    24.22627 25.08156

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    Kowalewko_45 looks autosomally "Eastern" (similar to modern Western Ukrainians and Northern Poles):

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post253369

    So we have autosomally Germano-Celtic and Balto-Slavo-Iranic results in the same cemetery / settlement.

    One sample also looks like a 50/50 mix of those two groups.

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    Some images from Kowalewko cemetery:

    http://www.muzarp.poznan.pl/zewnetrz...kowalewko.html
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    Kowalewko_45 according to Verenich is: Sarmatian plausibly.

    Sarmatian in Western Poland!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Kowalewko_45 according to Verenich is: Sarmatian plausibly.

    Sarmatian in Western Poland!

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    Sarmatism confirmed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Sarmatism confirmed!
    Mw mi Sarmato

    Sarmatians => Lęchites => Polanes???

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    Mar_7. At least first Slav without much doubts here.
    I1~CTS5887/Z2792+

    WestMed frequency probably biased. But it doesn't change results much.

    K36

    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.00
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 23.43
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 31.46
    Fennoscandian 0.06
    French 18.70
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 14.66
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy 0.27
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 8.38


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    First 20 Populations distance
    1 Ukrainian_North_East 80,70
    2 Ukrainian_Central 85,77
    3 Ukrainian_Poltava 87,88
    4 Slovak 89,92
    5 Russian_Kursk 91,59
    6 PL_South_Poland 96,22
    7 PL_Upper_Silesia 96,22
    8 Russian_Oryol 96,53
    9 Russian_Center 97,34
    10 Carpathian_Rusyns 97,39
    11 Ukrainian_West 97,68
    12 PL_average 98,66
    13 Russian_Smolensk 99,14
    14 Ukrainian_Chernigov 100,77
    15 PL_Mazovia 101,02


    nMonte

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    Ukrainian_North_East 87
    IT_Sardinia 13
    Russian_Kursk 0
    Ukrainian_Central 0
    Moksha 0
    Russian_Pskov 0

    full
    Ukrainian_North_East 60.85
    IT_Sardinia 13.95
    Moksha 11.40
    Russian_Kursk 6.20
    Ukrainian_Central 4.90
    Russian_Pskov 1.05
    Ukrainian_Poltava 0.75
    Bulgaria 0.25
    Erzya 0.25
    Serbian 0.15
    Russian_Center 0.10
    Russian_Smolensk 0.10
    Slovak 0.05

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Ukrainian_North_East Ukrainian_Central Ukrainian_Poltava
    28.40781 29.28682 29.64486
    Slovak Russian_Kursk PL_South_Poland
    29.98624 30.26425 31.01948
    PL_Upper_Silesia Russian_Oryol
    31.01975 31.07004

    Admix4

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,459469
    2 Ukrainian_Central @ 29,339293
    3 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 29,697336
    4 Slovak @ 30,038609
    5 Russian_Kursk @ 30,319436
    6 PL_South_Poland @ 31,071054
    7 PL_Upper_Silesia @ 31,072267
    8 Russian_Oryol @ 31,124764
    9 Russian_Center @ 31,254703
    10 Carpathian_Rusyns @ 31,257305
    11 Ukrainian_West @ 31,309697
    12 PL_average @ 31,462178
    13 Russian_Smolensk @ 31,538691
    14 Ukrainian_Chernigov @ 31,797107
    15 PL_Mazovia @ 31,833941
    16 Moksha @ 32,031611
    17 Moldavian @ 32,036561
    18 Belarusian_East @ 32,080014
    19 Russian_Tambov @ 32,112993
    20 Russian_Ryazan_Tula @ 32,343811
    336 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,459469
    2 Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,841808
    3 Slovak+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,917943
    4 Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 28,965726
    5 Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,250329
    6 Serbian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,321054
    7 Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_Central @ 29,339293
    8 Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,448796
    9 Carpathian_Rusyns+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,466548
    10 Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 29,486067
    11 Croatian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,500402
    12 Slovak+Ukrainian_Central @ 29,511642
    13 PL_Upper_Silesia+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,517055
    14 PL_South_Poland+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,524795
    15 West_Serbian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,560489
    16 Slovak+Russian_Kursk @ 29,626743
    17 Ukrainian_West+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,632265
    18 Moldavian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,635172
    19 Serbian+Russian_Pskov @ 29,656256
    20 Romania_SE+Ukrainian_North_East @ 29,679025
    56616 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Bulgaria +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,28299
    2 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,313821
    3 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Serbian +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,332145
    4 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Russian_Pskov @ 28,398127
    5 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% South_Romania +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,398844
    6 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Albania_Montenegro +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,421643
    7 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Montenegro +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,42956
    8 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Russian_Kursk @ 28,465179
    9 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Romania_SE +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,475643
    10 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Bosnian +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,475938
    11 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Macedonia_FYROM +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,501689
    12 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% IT_Sardinia +25% Moksha @ 28,518899
    13 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Gr_Eubea +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,533272
    14 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% West_Serbian +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,547913
    15 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Bulgaria +25% Russian_Kursk @ 28,565801
    16 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,566788
    17 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Bulgaria +25% Moksha @ 28,569706
    18 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Serbian +25% Moksha @ 28,578856
    19 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Kosovo +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,59089
    20 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Slovak +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,602864
    18966360 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Bulgaria+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East +Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,28299
    2 IT_Sardinia+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_E ast+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,313821
    3 Serbian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+ Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,332145
    4 IT_Sardinia+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukr ainian_North_East @ 28,398127
    5 South_Romania+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North _East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,398844
    6 Albania_Montenegro+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_ North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,421643
    7 Montenegro+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_Ea st+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,42956
    8 Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainia n_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,459469
    9 IT_Sardinia+Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukr ainian_North_East @ 28,465179
    10 Romania_SE+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_Ea st+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,475643
    11 Bosnian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+ Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,475938
    12 Macedonia_FYROM+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_Nor th_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,501689
    13 IT_Sardinia+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_ North_East @ 28,518899
    14 Gr_Eubea+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East +Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,533272
    15 West_Serbian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_ East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,547913
    16 Bulgaria+Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrain ian_North_East @ 28,565801
    17 Swiss_Italian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North _East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,566788
    18 Bulgaria+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_Nor th_East @ 28,569706
    19 Serbian+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_Nort h_East @ 28,578856
    20 Kosovo+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+U krainian_North_East @ 28,59089
    21 Slovak+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+U krainian_North_East @ 28,602864
    22 Bulgaria+Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_North_East+Uk rainian_North_East @ 28,610697
    23 Serbian+Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukraini an_North_East @ 28,623485
    24 Croatian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East +Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,627597
    25 IT_Sardinia+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_ North_East @ 28,629755
    26 Bulgaria+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrain ian_North_East @ 28,631981
    27 Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_N orth_East+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,635925
    28 Serbian+Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukr ainian_North_East @ 28,641482
    29 IT_Sardinia+Moksha+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_North_E ast @ 28,650999
    30 IT_Sardinia+Latvian+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian _North_East @ 28,655533
    31 Albania_Montenegro+Moksha+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukr ainian_North_East @ 28,656925
    32 IT_Tuscany+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_Ea st+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,65738
    33 Albania_Montenegro+Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_North_E ast+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,662756
    34 Moksha+Montenegro+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_N orth_East @ 28,682945
    35 Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainia n_North_East+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 28,683558
    36 IT_Sardinia+Ukrainian_Central+Ukrainian_North_East +Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,686871
    37 Albania_Montenegro+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_North_E ast+Ukrainian_North_East @ 28,687653
    38 Bulgaria+Ukrainian_North_East+Ukrainian_North_East +Ukrainian_Poltava @ 28,688643
    39 IT_Sardinia+Russian_Pskov+Russian_Pskov+Ukrainian_ North_East @ 28,694406
    40 IT_Sardinia+Russian_Kursk+Russian_Kursk+Ukrainian_ North_East @ 28,694457
    540597876 iterations.


    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Slovak @ 6,725254
    2 Austria @ 6,858821
    3 Czechs_Moravians @ 6,938283
    4 Slovenian @ 7,019197
    5 Ukrainian_West @ 7,085939
    6 Croatian @ 7,155005
    7 PL_Upper_Silesia @ 7,249587
    8 Carpathian_Rusyns @ 7,262995
    9 German_East @ 7,276328
    10 Hungary @ 7,381625
    11 West_Serbian @ 7,386223
    12 Romania_NW @ 7,420296
    13 Serbian @ 7,420402
    14 Montenegro @ 7,531517
    15 Bosnian @ 7,538772
    16 PL_South_Poland @ 7,683759
    17 Romania_SE @ 7,777678
    18 PL_SE_Carpathia @ 7,883126
    19 Macedonia_FYROM @ 7,895253
    20 South_Romania @ 8,016415
    336 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Swiss_Italian+Russian_Pskov @ 6,247863
    2 France_Central+Russian_Pskov @ 6,314634
    3 Swiss_Italian+Latvian @ 6,319281
    4 France_Central+Latvian @ 6,370342
    5 Swiss_Italian+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6,435817
    6 Swiss_Italian+Russian_Kursk @ 6,466648
    7 France_Central+Ukrainian_North_East @ 6,486163
    8 Spain_Baleares+Russian_Pskov @ 6,494815
    9 Austria_Tyrol+Russian_Pskov @ 6,498486
    10 Swiss_Italian+PL_Mazovia @ 6,498604
    11 France+Russian_Pskov @ 6,507121
    12 Swiss_Italian+Russian_Smolensk @ 6,513487
    13 France_South+Russian_Pskov @ 6,520684
    14 France_Central+Russian_Kursk @ 6,559061
    15 Swiss_Italian+Russian_Center @ 6,561592
    16 Swiss_Italian+Lithuanian @ 6,564071
    17 France_Central+Russian_Smolensk @ 6,565838
    18 Austria_Tyrol+Latvian @ 6,583971
    19 Spain_Valencia+Russian_Pskov @ 6,584093
    20 Swiss_Italian+Russian_Ryazan_Tula @ 6,584781
    56616 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Swiss_Italian +25% Russian_Pskov +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,247863
    2 50% Swiss_Italian +25% Latvian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,276589
    3 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,277087
    4 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% PL_Upper_Silesia @ 6,284221
    5 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Austria @ 6,288985
    6 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Slovak @ 6,295705
    7 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 6,30173
    8 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Ukrainian_North_East @ 6,302908
    9 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% PL_Mazovia @ 6,307407
    10 50% Russian_Pskov +25% IT_Sardinia +25% SE_England @ 6,310865
    11 50% Russian_Pskov +25% IT_Sardinia +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,310865
    12 50% France_Central +25% Russian_Pskov +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,314634
    13 50% Ukrainian_North_East +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,318722
    14 50% Swiss_Italian +25% Latvian +25% Latvian @ 6,319281
    15 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% France_Central @ 6,320374
    16 50% PL_Upper_Silesia +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,328505
    17 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 6,328816
    18 50% France_Central +25% Latvian +25% Russian_Pskov @ 6,336579
    19 50% Russian_Pskov +25% Swiss_Italian +25% PL_average @ 6,337722
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    My K36 nMonte after adding Mar7:

    1) With Bronze Age samples:

    BA_Cuiavia_PLN17 22.05
    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 16.50
    BA_Hungary_BR2 12.45
    MA_Slavic_Niem34 10.75
    IA_Wielbark_Kow55 10.30
    MA_Slavic_Mar7 10.00
    IA_Hungary_IR1 8.15
    MA_Slavic_RISE568 8.05
    BA_Hungary_RISE374 1.40
    IA_Wielbark_Mas5 0.35

    IA_Sarmatian_I0575 0.00
    IA_Gladiator_3DRIF26 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF18 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF23 0.00
    IA_Gladiator_6DRIF22 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI1 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI4 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow25 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow22 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow45 0.00
    MA_AngloSaxon_HS3 0.00
    HG_Ethiopia_Mota 0.00
    HG_Australia_Abo 0.00
    BB_Czechia_RISE566 0.00
    BA_Silesia_RISE150 0.00
    BA_Silesia_RISE154 0.00
    BA_Czechia_RISE577 0.00
    BA_Czechia_RISE586 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0803 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0099 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0047 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0116 0.00
    BA_EastGermany_I0164 0.00
    BA_Hungary_BR1 0.00
    BA_Hungary_RISE373 0.00
    BA_Denmark_RISE276 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE397 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE412 0.00
    IA_Scythian_I0247 0.00
    IA_Sweden_RISE174 0.00
    MA_Iran_I1955 0.00

    2) Without Bronze Age samples:

    LBA_Sudovia_RISE598 26.35
    IA_Hungary_IR1 23.55
    IA_Wielbark_Kow55 19.65
    MA_Slavic_Niem34 14.95
    MA_Slavic_Mar7 11.65
    IA_Gladiator_6DRIF22 2.00
    IA_Wielbark_Mas5 1.85

    IA_Sarmatian_I0575 0.00
    IA_Gladiator_3DRIF26 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF18 0.00
    IA_British_6DRIF23 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI1 0.00
    IA_CelticBriton_HI4 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow25 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow45 0.00
    IA_Wielbark_Kow22 0.00
    MA_AngloSaxon_HS3 0.00
    HG_Ethiopia_Mota 0.00
    HG_Australia_Abo 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE397 0.00
    BA_Armenia_RISE412 0.00
    IA_Scythian_I0247 0.00
    IA_Sweden_RISE174 0.00
    MA_Iran_I1955 0.00
    MA_Slavic_RISE568 0.00

    Maybe I will add some Iberian samples.

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