Kvens: Pre-Germanic Scandinavians?

[Harkonnen]

This is what I and pretty much all Norwegians learn in school. IDK what OP is talking about.


He's a nordic "we wuz kangz"...
AFAIK Samis were indeed native to Northern Scandinavia. Norwegians were probably the first to settle in southern Norway as there weren't anyone there before that. "Native" is a sketchy word since most humans have migrated to a place at some point unless you're SSA.

Sami language is relatively late newcomer to Northern Scandinavia, but so is Germanic at least what comes to permanent settlement. Proto-Germanic was spoken somewhere in Denmark or maybe Southern Sweden areas 500BC. Thousand years later Northern Fennoscandia was still a wasteland with very few inhabitants, hell it still is.

From modern languages Saamis were certainly first in Finnish Lappland. Those Northern Scandinavian lands were sort of sketchy lands with occasional wanderers from different language groups I think.

[Finnish Swede]

I used to be a tour guide in Finnmark. Kvens are nothing more than Finns who were an early example of refugees fleeing famine in the 18th century. In Norway, before Somalia and Erythrea, there was Suomi.

Same time as people moved to USA....for same reasons. Calling them to refugees as well?

[Peterski]

Proto-Kven on GEDmatch:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...er-on-GEDmatch

[Aren]

This is what I and pretty much all Norwegians learn in school. IDK what OP is talking about.


He's a nordic "we wuz kangz"...
AFAIK Samis were indeed native to Northern Scandinavia. Norwegians were probably the first to settle in southern Norway as there weren't anyone there before that. "Native" is a sketchy word since most humans have migrated to a place at some point unless you're SSA.

Samis are very recent newcomers to Northern Scandinavia. They were pushed north by the Baltic-Finns from their native southern Finland only by the medieval era.
IE-people(Corded Ware) reached as far north as Lofoten och Lappland during the early Bronze Age.

[Mingle]

This is what I and pretty much all Norwegians learn in school. IDK what OP is talking about.

He's referring to the 'Old Kvens' who have a somewhat obscure identity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvenland

The term Kven in the modern and ancient context refers to two different people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_name_Kven

Today, however, the name Kven refers to Finnish speaking people who have migrated to northern Norway in relatively recent times, with no connection to the Cwenas/Kænir mentioned in the sagas.

Finland's Kainuu region is said to be named after them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etymology_of_Kainuu