Haplogroup Q among Turkic peoples

[Shubotai]

Probably from Oghuz Turkish regardless, but I wouldn't rule out older Turkic tribes that came from the north like Cumans, Pechenegs or even Bulgars. I think Crimean Tatars moved immediately into Turkey recently and hadn't made it that south in the west coast of the Black Sea. I am not sure. The mobilization of Central Asian groups was so great that we find Q-M346 even in Comoros Islands.

Genetic history of the Turkish people, shows that the common ancestor Ertuğrul of the Kayı tribe, belonged to haplogroup: R1a=6.9% - Typical of Central Asian, Caucasus, Eastern Europeans and Indo-Aryan people.

The subclade Q2a1 was acquired by a population ancestral to Ashkenazi Jewish. Ukraine has a certain frequency of Q around 0.5-4% inherited from Khazars, Huns, Tatars or Cumans etc. The Khazars in Ukraine had converted to Qaraite Judaism. Or maybe some time Qaraite Jews were mistaken for descendants of Khazars there. In any case, the origin of Q-L275 is of course in south-west or south Asia, where is the biggest diversity and frequency. But Ukraine has some Q-L275, supposedly from Khazars, Hazara in Afghanistan also have Q-L275, so there is at least some relationship between this haplogroup and Khazars. There are more details in this research Phylogeography of human Y-chromosome haplogroup Q3-L275 from an academic/citizen science collaboration

I have to add that I hold only Q-M25 to have a genetic relationship with Turkic language family, or call it Oghur/Oghuz if you will, while referring to the other subclades of Q only as per to their occurrence in various Turkic groups. Q is a very old haplogroup and spread across many ethnic groups.

[Pine]

Probably from Oghuz Turkish regardless, but I wouldn't rule out older Turkic tribes that came from the north like Cumans, Pechenegs or even Bulgars. I think Crimean Tatars moved immediately into Turkey recently and hadn't made it that south in the west coast of the Black Sea. I am not sure. The mobilization of Central Asian groups was so great that we find Q-M346 even in Comoros Islands.

Genetic history of the Turkish people, shows that the common ancestor Ertuğrul of the Kayı tribe, belonged to haplogroup: R1a=6.9% - Typical of Central Asian, Caucasus, Eastern Europeans and Indo-Aryan people.

The subclade Q2a1 was acquired by a population ancestral to Ashkenazi Jewish. Ukraine has a certain frequency of Q around 0.5-4% inherited from Khazars, Huns, Tatars or Cumans etc. The Khazars in Ukraine had converted to Qaraite Judaism. Or maybe some time Qaraite Jews were mistaken for descendants of Khazars there. In any case, the origin of Q-L275 is of course in south-west or south Asia, where is the biggest diversity and frequency. But Ukraine has some Q-L275, supposedly from Khazars, Hazara in Afghanistan also have Q-L275, so there is at least some relationship between this haplogroup and Khazars. There are more details in this research Phylogeography of human Y-chromosome haplogroup Q3-L275 from an academic/citizen science collaboration

I have to add that I hold only Q-M25 to have a genetic relationship with Turkic language family, or call it Oghur/Oghuz if you will, while referring to the other subclades of Q only as per to their occurrence in various Turkic groups. Q is a very old haplogroup and spread across many ethnic groups.

This never happened.

[Bender1999]

This never happened.

Some historians think so. Khazars was merged in Caucasian/Turkic peoples.

[Bosniensis]

Kaspias would like us all more if we had q haplogroup

[Pine]

Some historians think so. Khazars was merged in Caucasian/Turkic peoples.

Khazars would've converted to Rabbinical Judaism, if they convert, not Karaite Judaism.

[Bender1999]

This never happened.

Some historians think so. Khazars was merged in Caucasian/Turkic peoples.

[Pine]

I'll help you guys out. Q was in the Middle East by the Bronze Age. Most Jews under Q, fall under Q-L245, which has a Bronze Age presence in the Levant (at worst we'll be surprised by an Iron Age arrival). Q-L245 in the Levant predates the ethnogenesis of the Jewish people.

[Illyrius]

Q is brother Haplogroup of R right guys?

[Bender1999]

I'll help you guys out. Q was in the Middle East by the Bronze Age. Most Jews under Q, fall under Q-L245, which has a Bronze Age presence in the Levant (at worst we'll be surprised by an Iron Age arrival). Q-L245 in the Levant predates the ethnogenesis of the Jewish people.

I dont deny the presence of some Q in Levant, like E in Central Asia. Why not, it’s possible. But Near easterners, also Jews, has other haplogroups, E, J1, J2, T and even R1a/b.

[Pine]

I dont deny the presence of some Q in Levant, like E in Central Asia. Why not, it’s possible. But Near easterners, also Jews, has other haplogroups, E, J1, J2, T and even R1a/b.

Ashkenazi Q splits in the Mediterranean over 1000 years before the alleged Khazar conversion. That's why it's impossible.