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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Mongols which we are talking here about are a group of people and civilisation at one time.
    They builded an Empire who exists only 20-70 years, the Great Khanat yet 100 years, but was totaly sinizied.

    Indoeuropeans built plenty of empires.
    Even Indoeuropean subdivisions did build couple of such, each one of them (exept Albanians).

    Romans build world Empire who existed 2233-2559 years, who was a whole civilization. Mongol wasn't.
    Yet later Roman people did build yet four-five global Empires: Portugese, Castillian, French, Italian, and to some degree Papal State.
    Ba, Even such small entities like Genoa, Joannites, and Venice could successfully compare on their own with Turko-Mahometianian world caliphate (sic!).

    Greeks created a civilisation wich was influencial 2000 years, in that during 400 years as far as central India and Portugal, and couple of quite strong empiries like, Athens, Spartha, Magna Greece, Macedonia, Ptolemees, Salauceeds, even late Romans and Parthians where under their deep influence, including byzantines Romans who became helleniezd totaly.

    Slavs created many small "empires", like Serbia, Bulgaria, Czechia, (Hungary?) and bigger, like Poland and Russia, each existed since thousand years.

    Even small Lithuanians among Balts were able to create a quite big state and sustain it for 300 years - by beating mongols btw.
    Similar history could be said about Armenians in antiquity.

    Irainians and Hindians one by one were creating emipres with most famous Achemenid, Parthian, Sassanian, Mughals, Aśoka's, to name a few.

    Germans - total insanity among IEs and in the history of the world, as they ruled majority of the IE possesions, who
    on the other hand ruled almost every single squeer foot on the planet and even beyond, and this is not a hyperbole.

    So, the try to compare Mongols, is like comparing Nauru to Russia...
    Honestly...I am doubting the authenticity of the "Mongol" story.

    If someone told you...a bunch of Cherokees or Sioux conquered the old world, you will laugh (even for just one generation). The Mongols were even below them in development and numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    Honestly...I am doubting the authenticity of the "Mongol" story.

    If someone told you...a bunch of Cherokees or Sioux conquered the old world, you will laugh (even for just one generation). The Mongols were even below them in development and numbers
    I am not a person with Mongolia obsession but even they were just powerful for just some decades, we should admit their importance for the world history. Mongolian khanat perished because of one important reason: They never etablished as navy/sea nation. An empire without that will be doomed to have a nondurable importance/history. So they werent weak imo, just hadn’t a ground for a durable nation. If Turks never conquered coastal areas, they never would kept their empire for over 500 years alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Mongolian khanat perished because of one important reason: They never etablished as navy/sea nation. An empire without that will be doomed to have a nondurable importance/history. So they werent weak imo, just hadn’t a ground for a durable nation. If Turks never conquered coastal areas, they never would kept their empire for over 500 years alive.
    Nope. Russia for some time had no navy and no serious sea shore, but was able to sustain an empire, in great part on the same territory as Mongols.
    Poland was also basically non navy empire, but lasted longer than Mongol one. I also doubt (but am not sure) that Asoka or Mughals have a navy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Nope. Russia for some time had no navy and no serious sea shore, but was able to sustain an empire, in great part on the same territory as Mongols.
    Poland was also basically non navy empire, but lasted longer than Mongol one. I also doubt (but am not sure) that Asoka or Mughals have a navy.
    Sorry i don’t want to insult anyone, but since when Poland was a world power?
    In the case of Russia: They had a powerful army which conquered low populated or weak/low developed regions. And even there they had a lot of damages. Well known is Caucasia where many died or fled to Turkey. Their expansion started later than the emergence of many other world powers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Their expansion started later than the emergence of many other world powers.
    Their expansion started in the 1300s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2garin View Post
    Their expansion started in the 1300s.
    I meant the expansion to non slavic regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    Sorry i don’t want to insult anyone, but since when Poland was a world power?
    Where I did say "world"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender1999 View Post
    I am not a person with Mongolia obsession but even they were just powerful for just some decades, we should admit their importance for the world history. Mongolian khanat perished because of one important reason: They never etablished as navy/sea nation. An empire without that will be doomed to have a nondurable importance/history. So they werent weak imo, just hadn’t a ground for a durable nation. If Turks never conquered coastal areas, they never would kept their empire for over 500 years alive.
    Mongol Empire collapsed because Great Khan died and his sons started civil wars on succession.

    They indeed had a navy as the attempt to conquer Japan would not have happend without one. Unfortunately typhoons fucked up their plans.

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    Based indeed

    Sulejman Shah Ertugrul and his bloodline along with the kayi tribe were R1a Z93 according to some sources
    Oghuz turks in general were intermixed with Iranian stockd hence them being so successful and a prosperous people.

    Pure Turkic peoples that live on the far east are a shadow of their Oghuz brethren. They're simple nomadic people and that's it.

    By the way. R1a Z93 was NEVER an original Turkic Haplogroup. Saying so would mean you're one sick jealous and delusional hypocrites. Proto-Shaman is an example.
    He goes to great lengths in order to strip R1a Z93 of its "iranianness"

    How dare you defy your true ancestors.
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    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
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    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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    Turkish Turanid trainer Savaş Cebeci like this theory he is 190 cm by the way...


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