Russian forces cross Ukrainian border 22.02.2022 morning

[Anglo-Celtic]

Two of which had no explicit UN backing (Panama and Vietnam) and one that we can, at best, describe as having no implicit backing (Kosovo). The rest was entirely legal.

Here's the thing. "Legal" isn't synonymous with "moral".

[Your Old Comrade]

There is an important choice to be made in November. Old Comrade is a citizen of Holland and will not participate. You have some energy and I wonder if it can be directed at some undecided Americans instead of him.

The Netherlands is not just a founding member of NATO, it also houses various U.S installations and a nuclear weapons facility.

[Your Old Comrade]

Here's the thing. "Legal" isn't synonymous with "moral".

Perhaps. But morality is in the eyes of tbe beholder. At the time, the Security Council definetely thought it was and voted accordingly. So do you support the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?

[Your Old Comrade]

Really? That same word describes many of your posts in this thread.

That describes more Frank and you. I pointed at the legality of operations as opposed to Russia's invasions of Georgia and Ukraine.

[Anglo-Celtic]

There is an important choice to be made in November. Old Comrade is a citizen of Holland and will not participate. You have some energy and I wonder if it can be directed at some undecided Americans instead of him.

I have to be honest. If any American voter is still undecided after four years of the horrid and tragic Biden regime, all we can do is pray for them to find their lost minds.

[Anglo-Celtic]

Perhaps. But morality is in the eyes of tbe beholder. At the time, the Security Council definetely thought it was and voted accordingly. So do you support the Russian invasion of Ukraine ?

Is it as simplistic as an invasion? What were the roots of the Crimean area in relation to the invasion?

[Russki]

The Netherlands is not just a founding member of NATO, it also houses various U.S installations and a nuclear weapons facility.

You asked me to recognize that Holland is relevant and I can give you that recognition. But I'm strictly speaking about the choice which American citizens are making soon.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Indeed. But when they lose the U.S, they run into real trouble. And believe it or not: this already happened to them once. In the early 80s, after their invasion of Lebanon at the time. The shekel got much of is value and entered hyperinflafion, unemployment was well in the double digits and the fallout of Sabra and Shatilla caused widespread political instability.

The only part of the above I care about is you admitting those UN resolutions mean nothing to Israel because what matters to Israel is only what the US gov does. So as I said, those resolutions mean nothing. It only matters what the US gov decides to do.

[Anglo-Celtic]

That describes more Frank and you. I pointed at the legality of operations as opposed to Russia's invasions of Georgia and Ukraine.

Nope. We don't have to guess about the real-life consequences of unjust wars, so there's not much conjecturing about it.

[alnortedelsur]

They do. In fact: Saddam got thrown out of Kuwait, the Dayton Agreements ended much of the Yugoslavian Wars, Milošević ended up no longer being able to genocide the Kosovar Albanians, Saddam was deposed, Bin Laden is at the bottom of the ocean. Thanks to the UN, not the whole of Korea is communist and, another miracle of international law and under an international tribunal: the Nazi's got tried and executed. They also stabilised Cambodia and Lebanon while they were at it, at the time.

They work when applying them to weak countries like those you mention, but they don't apply to great powers. The US keep on breaking the international laws with no consequences. Russia, for being also a great power is no different from US on that respect, with the great difference that they "break the international laws" in response to the constant menaces from US/NATO against them, when using Russians' neighbors (Ukraine, Georgia, etc.,) as tools against them.

You pretend that US and its allies constantly break the international laws and nobody cares "because they are the good guys who are keeping the world order" but pretend that Russians (being another big power) cannot do the same, and more when they do it to defend their national security from US and NATO.

Your double standards are just amazing!