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    Islam organized, expansionist and fifth columnist should be banned, and their supporters deported to their country of origin.

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    We have had no problems with them here in the West and that is what matters. Not their history of a long time ago but the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baraSYR View Post
    the elements who cause ruining your country must deported, I am muslim and I approve everyone right to protect his culture and heritage from Viruses. but don't take the whole with some muslims false. any muslim who trying to destroy others life in any way is sinner, because he broke the pledge that is in Quran
    "O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)."

    I personally can tolerate moderate muslims here, they aren't a problem (i don't tolerate some christian extremists like hardcore luterans too, for example)...but the problem is that 70% of ''muslims'' (generic word) here thinks in this way:






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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    Note; what is going on in the Middle East today is not self-defence. Islam started this war and we have brought it back to their own country and as I such I don't feel sorry for them at all. I just wish the West would take off it's gloves and go all out. Not because the war is fun.. but because it has to be won. They have to be taught a lesson they will never forget: don't f...ck with us.
    This is debatable, you could say it all started with the Balfour declaration and later the creation of American backed Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    This is debatable, you could say it all started with the Balfour declaration and later the creation of American backed Israel.
    I would say that their opinions on that are irrelevant. The war started on September 11, 2001 an with an Islamic attack on the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    We have had no problems with them here in the West and that is what matters. Not their history of a long time ago but the present.
    Thats another matter altogether, but one cannot take Sufism out of its historical context, thus to say Sufism is a peaceful branch of Islam as opposed to other branches, is misleading to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evon View Post
    Thats another matter altogether, but one cannot take Sufism out of its historical context, thus to say Sufism is a peaceful branch of Islam as opposed to other branches, is misleading to say the least.
    Well they are, at least, the least dangerous of the Islamic branches. And if they slip up they can always be banned too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    Well they are, at least, the least dangerous of the Islamic branches. And if they slip up they can always be banned too.
    I think if you are looking for the most peaceful branching of Islam, you should look into the classical salafists, whom tended to withdraw from politics and lead peaceful secluded lives, i think a more modern version is close to Salafist quietist or something along those lines...
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    I have mixed ideas. On the one hand, it is certain having a ethnically coherent society is very desirable, and that the expulsion of Muslims from the Iberian Peninsulae was a great thing for Spain and Portugal.

    On the other hand, the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian Empire, an entity that I respect a lot for its defence of tradition and ethnic tolerance had no problem with Bosniak muslims....

    Hmm...let's say that unless the Muslim population in question (I think of Bosniaks and Albanians here) have a long tradition of belonging in their lands, it's better if Islam is not imported at all.

    Will not vote since I can't entirely say "yes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I would say that their opinions on that are irrelevant. The war started on September 11, 2001 an with an Islamic attack on the United States.
    9/11 was a Mossad operation.

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