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    Illustrations made by medieval monks in the ancient kingdom of Asturias. Note the Celtic influence in the edgings:








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    ^^^^^^ Yeah, the knots, a pretty good indicator of a Celtic culture. You'll find it all throughout their old artwork and carvings in the British Isles.

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    I respect these roots, but I don't feel much thrilling about it I confess.

    But I'm very interested in the iberian culture and people from the east of iberia, just where I'm from.

    Maybe is the call of the blood, who knows.

    And Iberians were only here in iberia, but there're celtic roots even in china.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    I respect these roots, but I don't feel much thrilling about it I confess.

    But I'm very interested in the iberian culture and people from the east of iberia, just where I'm from.

    Maybe is the call of the blood, who knows.

    And Iberians were only here in iberia, but there're celtic roots even in china.
    In china? I am interested to hear more of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Anse View Post
    In china? I am interested to hear more of this.
    only was a way of talking, I didn't want to offend anyone please.
    theorically, very theorically, my 'ancestral land' was that of jacetani/ilergetes, not very far away from celtiberi and others celtics as you can see.



    What I wanted to say is that 'celts' were the most common people in west and central europe, they could be regarded as the west european metha ethnicity.

    But iberians or vascones are an exclusive iberian (peninsula) thing.

    Call me snob if you want, but better call me iberian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    only was a way of talking, I didn't want to offend anyone please.
    theorically, very theorically, my 'ancestral land' was that of jacetani/ilergetes, not very far away from celtiberi and others celtics as you can see.



    What I wanted to say is that 'celts' were the most common people in west and central europe, they could be regarded as the west european metha ethnicity.

    But iberians or vascones are an exclusive iberian (peninsula) thing.

    Call me snob if you want, but better call me iberian.
    Nah I understand where you're coming from. Iberians should recognize every part of their heritage, but the Celtic past is secondary to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B01AB20 View Post
    theorically, very theorically, my 'ancestral land' was that of jacetani/ilergetes, not very far away from celtiberi and others celtics as you can see.
    Really I have my doubts about relating old Spanish/Iberian/Celt tribes with our current location, due repopulations etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Empecinado View Post
    Illustrations made by medieval monks in the ancient kingdom of Asturias. Note the Celtic influence in the edgings:
    Doesn't mean anything, because of the monastic movement out of Ireland and Britain. And considering the time-frame, this illustrations were most likely tributary to Visigothic, Merovingian and Carolingian illumination as well (which do not differ by much from Roman features).








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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudel View Post
    Doesn't mean anything, because of the monastic movement out of Ireland and Britain. And considering the time-frame, this illustrations were most likely tributary to Visigothic, Merovingian and Carolingian illumination as well (which do not differ by much from Roman features).
    Back then Asturias was a isolated area, barely Christianized and Romanized, and Asturs rebelled against Visigoths just some years before the Arab invasion took place. They even reneged on the Visigoths up to the early IXth century. All this changed with the influx of Christians from southern areas, whom were highly Romanized and many of them were Visigoths, which altered the demographic makeup and the Asturian kingdom adopted a pro-Hispanist orientation (recovery of Spania) and a identity based on pre-Roman, Hispano-Roman and Visigothic roots (previously was a entity of Astur-Cantabrian local character). The Carolingian influence was non-existant there in these times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Really I have my doubts about relating old Spanish/Iberian/Celt tribes with our current location, due repopulations etc
    sure, and the map is more than 2000 years old, and because of that I said 'very theorically', but I guess the pyreenees was the less altered zone in the turbulent history of iberia.

    but again, I have ni puta idea where were my ancestors 2000 years ago.

    pero de ilusión también se vive no?

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