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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriana Jacinto View Post
    Of course it isn't. In fact it is letting an African come in and say they are going to take over southern Europeans.
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    Don't you guys wonder just why this site is growing and has more members than ever before? Because foaming at the mouth racist Neo-Nazi wannabes no longer post here in large numbers and thus cannot scare potentially productive, sane members away. For every poster here who wants this to be Stormfront 2.0 and leaves, I bet you could find three normal people to take their place.

    Some of us just want to come here to make friends and talk about different cultures and appreciate what the world has to offer. Not everyone wants to be part of some movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
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    "It's not just that.It is showed only 1-2% because we don't have tools to measure deep ancestry admixture.When we will have.African will be even greater in Southern Europeans.



    The Bass is not a provocateur.If EastAfricans are admixed and all the time Euros point about that then why Southern Europeans are so touchy about their admixture?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropologique View Post
    What self respecting native European would want to join an African biological anthropology forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriana Jacinto View Post
    It's not just that.It is showed only 1-2% because we don't have tools to measure deep ancestry admixture.When we will have.African will be even greater in Southern Europeans.
    So there is no link to proof your earlier claim that they are bragging about taking over Southern Europeans ?



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    Anyone who wants a racist forum and people all patting one another on the back and agreeing with everything they say should remember that Stormfront would welcome them with open arms. No one is forcing you to post here after all. Don't like it, the door is right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    This forum's administration isn't racist.
    It's not about being racist or not, but simple, potential disbalance.Not many can walk a fine line, or survive large influx of non-European members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lena View Post
    It's not about being racist or not, but simple, potential disbalance.Not many can walk a fine line, or survive large influx of non-European members.
    I haven't yet noticed a 'large influx', and is unlikely ... this forum's theme is European, and hence always the vast majority would be European.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriana Jacinto View Post
    It's not just that.It is showed only 1-2% because we don't have tools to measure deep ancestry admixture.When we will have.African will be even greater in Southern Europeans.
    You are wrong; Genetics have now tools to measure which part of admixture is recent and which one is ancient.

    The average frequence of Sub-Saharian MtDNA in all Europe is of around 1%; it has been recently established that abnbout 65% of this total percentage (which means hence 0,65% of total Euro Mtdna is recent and the remaining 35% (0,35% of total EURO MtDNA) comes from Meso-Neolithiic esporadic migratory waves

    source:

    Reconstructing ancient mitochondrial DNA links
    between Africa and Europe
    Marı´a Cerezo,1,7 Alessandro Achilli,2 Anna Olivieri,3 Ugo A. Perego,3,4
    Alberto Go´mez-Carballa,1 Francesca Brisighelli,1,5 Hovirag Lancioni,2
    Scott R. Woodward,4 Manuel Lo´pez-Soto,6 A´ ngel Carracedo,1 Cristian Capelli,5
    Antonio Torroni,3 and Antonio Salas1,7,8


    Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) lineages of macro-haplogroup L (excluding the derived L3 branches M and N) represent
    the majority of the typical sub-Saharan mtDNA variability. In Europe, these mtDNAs account for <1% of the total but,
    when analyzed at the level of control region, they show no signals of having evolved within the European continent, an
    observation that is compatible with a recent arrival from the African continent. To further evaluate this issue, we analyzed
    69 mitochondrial genomes belonging to various L sublineages from a wide range of European populations. Phylogeographic
    analyses showed that ~65% of the European L lineages most likely arrived in rather recent historical times,
    including the Romanization period, the Arab conquest of the Iberian Peninsula and Sicily, and during the period of the
    Atlantic slave trade. However, the remaining 35% of L mtDNAs form European-specific subclades, revealing that there
    was gene flow from sub-Saharan Africa toward Europe as early as 11,000 yr ago.

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