What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

[Liffrea]

Originally Posted by Lajos Kossuth
Nor do I trust much the reliability of such tests.

I believe the tests are reliable, at least I haven’t heard of cases where two different tests threw up two different resulting haplogroups but I think a lot is read into them, they do, after all, only test the one unbroken line of ancestral markers on a Y chromosome or within mtDNA, that’s just one out of thousands of ancestors you have, so I tend to ignore the “Celtic”, “Germanic”, “Slavic” slant that some geneticists give to these tests as they don’t necessarily indicate anything of the sort.

[Bridie]

Although the proto-Germanic/Nordic "I" was always a European grouping going back to the pre-IceAge, it seems they usually tended towards being a ruling caste and not the peasantry, so they usually had fewer children than the surrounding R1'ers, thus their gene frequency is lower overall.

Actually, that theory is inconsistent with reality. Historically, men of the ruling classes were quite good at spreading their genes around. Not only that, but this tendency of aristocratic or upper class families for having smaller than average families is a relatively modern phenomenon. In ancient times, the prosperous ruling classes would not only be able to have larger families due to the availability of domestic servants, wet nurses (allowing aristocratic women to regain fertility quicker after childbearing than those who would breastfeed for 2 or more years - as breastfeeding suppresses ovulation), nannies etc... but their infant mortality rate was lower too (obviously due to better nutrition, shelter, hygiene etc.)

If the "I" halogroup did not quickly become widespread and frequently found, it would rather indicate a lack of prosperity of the men/populations who possessed it.

[Brännvin]

I am tested I1 and my country has the highest frequency of power I1 across Europe

[Svarogstan]

This is my first post. I am confirmed I2a2.

[Brännvin]

If you take a look at the French Canadian DNA Database, G and G2a are not uncommon among our people.

G and G2a, in ethnic French, can is connected to the Alanic hypothesis.


Migration to Gaul;

It has been hypothetised that G2a was brought to northern France and Belgium by the Alans, who traversed all continental Europe. G2a1 being the most common variety in the Caucasus nowadays, the fairly recent Alanic migration (from a genetic point of view) could have carried that particular subclade. In fact, G2a1 has been found all along the Alanic migration route (Hungary, France, Spain), as well as in Britain (Samartian element), but hardly anywhere else.

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[Humanophage]

E1b1b1a2 (V-13), the more or less Illyrian haplogroup. I'm still a bit cautious about the result. Not that it's that hard to believe, but it did come as a surprise - perchance a pleasant one due to its highly peculiar character and relative rarity. I'm not entirely certain how could it possibly appear where my oldest known ancestor used to live.

I'm mildly dismayed at how I am confined to voting for E1b1b, which is generally perceived as Middle Eastern and North African, in spite of my particular subclade making me cluster exclusively with Europeans (e.g., on ySearch in my vicinity I found 23 people from England, 9 from Ireland, 7 from Southern Germany and Austria, 6 from Italy, 4 from Scotland, 3 from Greece, 3 from Czech Rep., 2 from Bulgaria, etc.) Not a single surname or family history would point at them being foreign to Europe or to the region, except for a few Scots in England. What a predicament.

[Stefan]

I don't know for sure, but my father's ancestry is in southwestern Europe so it is more than likely R1B. I think a paternal uncle of mine actually took the test when it was a "fad" to take them, but I didn't really ask what it was. I wonder, what is the age requirement for a test? I have the money, so I might just get it done. I'm sure my parents would let me.

[Humanophage]

Having adjusted my results following instructions from specialists at Molecular Genetics, I managed to find a perfect match (a South German) and two near-perfect ones (another South German and an Irishman). The former had only tested for 11 markers (I tested for 17), but I'm still quite impressed with the whole thing.

Time for a MtDNA test, and perhaps a 67-marker one due to the unusual nature of the haplogroup.

[Aino]

I voted for my father's haplogroup, N1c1. While this haplogroup is the most common one in Finland, the particular haplotype my father has seems to be rare. His closest matches so far are in England, Sweden, and among the Rurikid princes.

[Osweo]

N1c1. ... among the Rurikid princes.

How odd! Who did they test to be so certain of this? Was there still much actual male-line unity among those claiming to be of Ryurik's line among the Russian nobility?