Oracle-4 on Gedmatch

**Vesuvian Sky** · 01-19-2013, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Raine

MDLP World Oracle

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Greek_East + 21.1% Belarusian_V @ 0.49
2 79.4% Greek_East + 20.6% Polish_V @ 0.52
3 78% Greek_East + 22% Sorb @ 0.57
4 84.7% Greek_Center + 15.3% Lithuanian_V @ 0.59
5 83.7% Greek_Center + 16.3% Belarusian @ 0.6
6 85.3% Greek_Center + 14.7% Lithuanian @ 0.64
7 75.4% Greek_East + 24.6% Slovakian @ 0.64
8 85.8% Greek_Center + 14.2% Latvian @ 0.64
9 72.9% Greek_East + 27.1% Croatian_V @ 0.66
10 80.1% Italian-Center + 19.9% Russian_South @ 0.67
11 80.3% Greek_East + 19.7% Polish @ 0.69
12 69.2% Montenegrin + 30.8% Cypriot @ 0.72
13 61.2% Macedonian + 38.8% Greek_Cretan @ 0.73
14 82.4% Greek_East + 17.6% Lithuanian_V @ 0.75
15 77.7% Italian-Center + 22.3% Ukrainian_V @ 0.76
16 85.7% Greek_Center + 14.3% Estonian @ 0.79
17 82.9% Greek_Center + 17.1% Polish @ 0.79
18 76.6% Greek_East + 23.4% Ukrainian-West @ 0.8
19 76.2% Greek_Center + 23.8% Croatian_V @ 0.8
20 79.5% Italian-Center + 20.5% Ukrainian-East @ 0.81

Ours are very similar on this Oracle:

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.1% Greek_East + 13.9% Croatian_V @ 0.83
2 87.6% Italian-Center + 12.4% Latvian_V @ 0.87
3 91% Greek_East + 9% Lithuanian_V @ 0.93
4 90.6% Greek_East + 9.4% Ire8 @ 0.94
5 89.5% Greek_East + 10.5% Polish_V @ 0.98
6 90.4% Greek_East + 9.6% Belarusian @ 0.99
7 88.8% Greek_East + 11.2% Sorb @ 0.99
8 89.3% Greek_East + 10.7% Belarusian_V @ 1
9 90% Greek_East + 10% Polish @ 1.01
10 90% Italian-Center + 10% Ukrainian-East @ 1.01
11 91.3% Greek_East + 8.7% Lithuanian @ 1.01
12 90.3% Italian-Center + 9.7% Russian_South @ 1.01
13 87.5% Greek_East + 12.5% Slovakian @ 1.02
14 89.6% Italian-Center + 10.4% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.03
15 90.8% Italian-Center + 9.2% Mordovian @ 1.03
16 90.6% Italian-Center + 9.4% Russian_V @ 1.05
17 91.6% Greek_East + 8.4% Latvian @ 1.05
18 87% Greek_East + 13% Czech @ 1.05
19 88.1% Greek_East + 11.9% Ukrainian-West @ 1.06
20 91% Italian-Center + 9% Russian_Center @ 1.06

**Maleficent** · 01-19-2013, 08:01 AM

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AJ @ 8.971
2 South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 10.448
3 Tuscan @ 13.629
4 GR @ 14.524
5 North_Italian @ 18.565
6 PT @ 23.093
7 RO @ 23.135
8 Serbian @ 23.487
9 ES @ 25.583
10 TR @ 27.339
78 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% English +50% Samaritan @ 4.723
2 50% Cornish +50% Samaritan @ 5.207
3 50% NL +50% Samaritan @ 5.700
4 50% Samaritan +50% West_&_Central_German @ 6.000
5 50% FR +50% Samaritan @ 6.084
6 50% Orcadian +50% Samaritan @ 6.172
7 50% IE +50% Samaritan @ 6.258
8 50% Samaritan +50% Scottish @ 6.497
9 50% DK +50% Samaritan @ 6.608
10 50% Druze +50% FR @ 7.522
3081 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% English +25% FR @ 4.541
2 50% English +25% Samaritan +25% Samaritan @ 4.723
3 50% Samaritan +25% English +25% English @ 4.723
4 50% Samaritan +25% Cornish +25% English @ 4.865
5 50% Samaritan +25% DK +25% FR @ 4.942
6 50% Samaritan +25% FR +25% Scottish @ 4.598
7 50% Samaritan +25% Cornish +25% FR @ 4.991
8 50% Samaritan +25% FR +25% Orcadian @ 5.004
9 50% Samaritan +25% FR +25% IE @ 5.015
10 50% Samaritan +25% FR +25% NL @ 5.112
106320 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Druze + IE + PT + Samaritan @ 4.434
2 Druze + PT + Samaritan + Scottish @ 4.442
3 DK + Druze + ES + Samaritan @ 4.489
4 Druze + English + FR + Samaritan @ 4.517
5 Druze + English + ES + Samaritan @ 4.532
6 Druze + English + PT + Samaritan @ 4.539
7 Druze + Orcadian + PT + Samaritan @ 4.540
8 English + FR + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.541
9 DK + Druze + PT + Samaritan @ 4.576
10 Druze + ES + IE + Samaritan @ 4.627
11 Druze + ES + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 4.675
12 Druze + ES + Samaritan + Scottish @ 4.686
13 Druze + FR + IE + Samaritan @ 4.696
14 Cornish + Druze + FR + Samaritan @ 4.718
15 English + English + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 4.723
16 Druze + FR + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 4.779
17 Druze + FR + Samaritan + Scottish @ 4.788
18 Druze + ES + NO + Samaritan @ 4.800
19 Druze + English + ES + IQ @ 4.811
20 Cornish + Druze + PT + Samaritan @ 4.842

252820 iterations.

Done.

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**Maleficent** · 01-19-2013, 06:47 PM

Using 1 population approximation:
1 KSV @ 7.245
2 CITAL @ 8.939
3 GRK @ 9.183
4 NITAL @ 13.148
5 SIC @ 13.226
6 ASHK @ 13.309
7 GGZ @ 14.382
8 RMN @ 17.641
9 MCD @ 18.337
10 BLG @ 19.556
73 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% GGZ +50% SIC @ 3.894
2 50% RMN +50% SIC @ 3.981
3 50% MCD +50% SIC @ 4.473
4 50% GRK +50% KSV @ 4.785
5 50% CITAL +50% GGZ @ 4.854
6 50% CITAL +50% KSV @ 4.883
7 50% BLG +50% SIC @ 4.967
8 50% CPR +50% FRN @ 5.033
9 50% MNT +50% SIC @ 5.102
10 50% KSV +50% SIC @ 5.366
2701 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SIC +25% BSN +25% CITAL @ 2.550
2 50% CRS +25% ARM +25% BSN @ 2.746
3 50% SIC +25% BSN +25% SIC @ 2.796
4 50% SIC +25% BSN +25% GRK @ 2.902
5 50% CITAL +25% BSN +25% SIC @ 3.043
6 50% GRK +25% CRS +25% GGZ @ 3.338
7 50% SIC +25% ASHK +25% BSN @ 3.341
8 50% SIC +25% HNG +25% SIC @ 3.385
9 50% SIC +25% KSV +25% RMN @ 3.509
10 50% SIC +25% CRT +25% SIC @ 3.528
130748 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 BSN + CITAL + SIC + SIC @ 2.550
2 ARM + BSN + GGZ + SRD @ 2.563
3 ARM + BSN + CRS + CRS @ 2.746
4 BSN + SIC + SIC + SIC @ 2.796
5 BSN + GRK + SIC+ SIC @ 2.902
6 BSN + CITAL + CITAL + SIC @ 3.043
7 BSN + CPR + CRS + GRK @ 3.118
8 ASHK + BSN + CITAL + SIC @ 3.176
9 BSN + CITAL + CPR + CRS @ 3.299
10 ARM + BSN + RMN + SRD @ 3.314
11 BSN + CITAL + GRK + SIC @ 3.315
12 BSN + CPR + CRS + SIC @ 3.332
13 ARM + BASQ + GRK + RMN @ 3.333
14 CRS + GGZ + GRK + GRK @ 3.338
15 ASHK + BSN + SIC + SIC @ 3.341
16 BSN + LZG + SIC + SRD @ 3.368
17 ARM + BASQ + GGZ + GRK @ 3.383
18 HNG + SIC + SIC + SIC @ 3.385
19 ARM + CRS + GGZ + SPN @ 3.413
20 ASHK + BSN + CPR + PRT @ 3.414

554502 iterations.

Done.

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**Jackson** · 01-20-2013, 01:34 AM

Here is my most likely combinations for each of my family members out of the Oracle-4 for EUtest. This means only the most likely result per person (for 4 populations mode), also easier to post lots of results then, and gives a general idea for each person. Will do it for some other calculators in a bit also.

Myself:
English + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German + West_&_Central_German @ 3.576

Father:
English + English + English + NO @ 2.972

Mother:
English + IE + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 6.014

Aunt (Mother's Sister):
English + FR + South_&_Central_Swedish + West_&_Central_German @ 4.133

Paternal Grandfather:
English + English + Orcadian + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 1.442

Paternal Grandmother:
Cornish + English + English + English @ 2.593

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My paternal phased data file:
NO + NO + NO + PT @ 5.475

My maternal phased data file:
English + IE + RO + West_&_Central_German @ 4.787

Father's paternal phased data file:
English + English + South_&_Central_Swedish + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 5.794

Father's maternal phased data file:
DK + English + English + FR @ 3.277

**Jackson** · 01-20-2013, 02:00 AM

Here's Dodecad K12b using the same format:

Myself:
Argyll + British + French + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.388

Father:
Argyll + Dutch + French + Orcadian @ 0.896

Mother:
Bulgarian + Cornwall + Cornwall + Mixed_Germanic @ 2.315

Aunt (Mother's Sister):
French + German + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 1.692

Paternal Grandfather:
Argyll + CEU30 + German + Kent @ 0.606

Paternal Grandmother:
British + Dutch + Dutch + French @ 0.864

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My paternal phased data file:
Argyll + Norwegian + Pais_Vasco + Swedish @ 2.504

My maternal phased data file:
Argyll + Argyll + O_Italian + Orkney @ 1.913

Father's paternal phased data file:
Argyll + Argyll + Mixed_Germanic + Mixed_Germanic @ 2.186

Father's maternal phased data file:
British + British_Isles + British_Isles + French @ 0.661

**Jackson** · 01-20-2013, 02:44 AM

MDLP World-22:

Myself:
British + British + Gagauz + Polish_V @ 1.030

Father:
German-North + German-South + Montenegrin + Swedish @ 1.942

Mother:
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic + North-East-European + Balkarian + Estonian @ 2.643

Aunt (Mother's Sister):
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic + North-East-European + Cirkassian + Latvian @ 3.712

Paternal Grandfather:
Kosovar + Swedish + Swedish + Ukrainian-Center @ 2.245

Paternal Grandmother:
British + Kosovar + Orcadian + Polish_V @ 2.226

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My paternal phased data file:
Croatian_V + Italian_North + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.920

My maternal phased data file:
German_V + German_V + Kosovar + Russian_South @ 2.869

Father's paternal phased data file:
Croatian + Romania + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.096

Father's maternal phased data file:
Austrian + British + German-South + German_V @ 1.543

**Scarlet Ibis** · 01-20-2013, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Jackson

My paternal phased data file:
Croatian_V + Italian_North + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.920

**Jackson** · 01-20-2013, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Scarlet Ibis

MDLP oracle results are skewed (unintentionally) so that only those populations/people that were in the original run are directly comparable to others (ie through the oracle), so my results are only comparable to other people not included. This means that the oracle doesn't make a lot of sense, thought i'd include it anyway for fairness.

I'm not sure if this is the case with Dodecad K12b, i know it is with Dodecad V3 though, and i know it isn't with Eurogenes EUtest/Jtest, so that seems to be the most reliable one.

**Oneeye** · 02-03-2013, 04:42 AM

Jtest:

1 English @ 4.467
2 NL @ 5.274
3 DK @ 6.227
4 West_&_Central_German @ 6.381
5 Cornish @ 6.768
6 Orcadian @ 7.375
7 IE @ 7.720
8 NO @ 8.837
9 Scottish @ 9.435
10 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 10.227

1 50% English +50% English @ 4.467
2 50% English +50% NL @ 4.644
3 50% DK +50% English @ 4.796
4 50% English +50% West_&_Central_German @ 4.964
5 50% DK +50% NL @ 5.229
6 50% NL +50% NL @ 5.274
7 50% Cornish +50% English @ 5.364
8 50% Cornish +50% DK @ 5.389
9 50% DK +50% West_&_Central_German @ 5.483
10 50% Cornish +50% NL @ 5.577

1 50% English +25% DK +25% English @ 4.459
2 50% English +25% English +25% English @ 4.467
3 50% English +25% English +25% NL @ 4.492
4 50% DK +25% English +25% FR @ 4.515
5 50% English +25% DK +25% NL @ 4.560
6 50% English +25% English +25% West_&_Central_German @ 4.569
7 50% English +25% DK +25% West_&_Central_German @ 4.626
8 50% English +25% NL +25% NL @ 4.644
9 50% NL +25% English +25% English @ 4.644
10 50% DK +25% DK +25% FR @ 4.651

1 DK + English + English + English @ 4.459
2 English + English + English + English @ 4.467
3 English + English + English + NL @ 4.492
4 DK + DK + English + FR @ 4.515
5 DK + English + English + NL @ 4.560
6 English + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 4.569
7 DK + English + English + West_&_Central_German @ 4.626
8 English + English + NL + NL @ 4.644
9 DK + DK + DK + FR @ 4.651
10 DK + English + English + FR @ 4.723
11 Cornish + DK + English + English @ 4.752
12 English + English + NL + West_&_Central_German @ 4.774
13 DK + English + FR + NO @ 4.775
14 DK + English + NL + NL @ 4.781
15 DK + DK + FR + IE @ 4.795
16 DK + DK + English + English @ 4.796
17 DK + DK + FR + NL @ 4.803
18 Cornish + English + English + English @ 4.831
19 English + English + FR + NO @ 4.855
20 English + English + English + IE @ 4.856

**Oneeye** · 02-03-2013, 04:58 AM

MDLP World 22

1 German_V @ 5.091
2 50% Norwegian_V +50% Serbian @ 1.966
3 50% Norwegian_V +25% Austrian +25% Bulgarian @ 1.753
4 Austrian + Bulgarian + Norwegian_V + Norwegian_V @ 1.753

Dodekad k12b:

1 Mixed_Germanic @ 2.734
2 50% Mixed_Germanic +50% Mixed_Germanic @ 2.734
3 50% Argyll +25% British +25% Bulgarian @ 0.456
4 Argyll + Argyll + British + Bulgarian @ 0.456

HarrapaWorld 4

1 utahn-white @ 4.495
2 50% french +50% n-european @ 2.880
3 50% british +25% orcadian +25% romanian @ 1.185
4 british + british + orcadian + romanian @ 1.185

Looks like these want to call me a gypsy, lol