Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

[P-Chan]

Some lombard and furlan alpine valleys are also around 50%, while probably some isolated sardinian or calabrian village can be even around 2-5%...a very big difference for a single country, indeed.

I'm curious about the portuguese and the french percentages.

Where did you find those percentages? In Italy there are not areas where 50% of the population have light eyes, and in Sardinia, according studies made in the 80's, the avarage % of light eyes (grey and green) is 16%


2% means 2 person in a group of 100!


http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home..._num_10_2_3898

[ABest]

I don't think so. Maybe due to the fact that many northern Italians have southern Italian ancestry now due to people moving north, but overall from pictures and all studies I have seen, both northern Italy an Spain are lighter than southern Italy by quite a bit.

I don't remember what study I've read but they were showing the difference to be like 10-15%, not 30%!

[Sikeliot]

And only about 2m Sicilians live in the West.

Well Palermo has about one quarter of the island's population.. but then Trapani and Agrigento are quite empty by comparison.

Catania holds about a fifth of Sicily's population, and I'd bet you that blue eyes there are about 10% or less.

So it probably balances out somehow.

[Peyrol]

I don't think so. Maybe due to the fact that many northern Italians have southern Italian ancestry now due to people moving north, but overall from pictures and all studies I have seen, both northern Italy an Spain are lighter than southern Italy by quite a bit.

About 55% of our population is composed by second-third generation southerners.

But, since the datas about eye colors are from a study of 1910, they were right.

[Mans not hot]

No, due to genetic mutation.

[Sikeliot]

About 55% of our population is composed by second-third generation southerners.

But, since the datas about eye colors are from a study of 1910, they were right.

So in that case I'd conclude northerners are quite a bit lighter than southerners.

[Peyrol]

Where did you find those percentages? In Italy there are not areas where 50% of the population have light eyes, and in Sardinia, according studies made in the 80's, the avarage % of light eyes (grey and green) is 16%


2% means 2 person in a group of 100!

Se vuoi che ti dico che non esistono differenze te lo dico neh, questo però non lo rende un dato reale.

I numeri sono comunque stati raccolti da Ridolfo Livi sulle classi di leva 1859-1863 nel Regio Esercito.

[alfieb]

More or less.

Messina + Catania + Syracuse = Palermo. In terms of the cities, not the provinces. The Province of Catania is actually very densely populated and almost has as many residents as PA.

[Peyrol]

So in that case I'd conclude northerners are quite a bit lighter than southerners.

Well, if you assume that lombards in Milano are about 10-15% of the population and the same work for piemontese in Torino and for venetic in Venezia...

As the former sicilian governo Raffaele Lombardo said, ''Torino è la terza città siciliana d'Italia dopo Palermo e Catania''

[Sikeliot]

More or less.

Messina + Catania + Syracuse = Palermo. In terms of the cities, not the provinces. The Province of Catania is actually very densely populated and almost has as many residents as PA.

Would you agree with me that Palermo, light eyes are probably close to 35% and in Catania about 10%? If so, it averages out to the average.

Let me try something. Here is a sample of photos from Catania collected on anthrocivitas and here is one from Palermo. I'll calculate the light eyes in them.

Catania: http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15264

THREE out of THIRTY TWO. ~9%


Palermo:
http://anthrocivitas.net/forum/showthread.php?t=373

SEVEN out of THIRTY TWO. ~21%.