What's Your Y-DNA Haplogroup?

**Aino** · 10-25-2009, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Osweo

How odd! Who did they test to be so certain of this? Was there still much actual male-line unity among those claiming to be of Ryurik's line among the Russian nobility?

They have tested descendants of Rurik from different family branches, such as the Smolensk, Yaroslav, Starodub, and Rostov branches. The first two descendants of Rurik that were tested were Prince Shahovskoi and Professor Gagarin. Their most recent common ancestor is Vladimir II Monomakh, Grand Prince of Kiev in the 12th century.

The test results of these two and of the other people who have been tested show that they carry N1c1 and share a similar haplotype, which indicates descent from a shared ancestor. However, two princes of the Obolensk branch carry R1a1 instead and thus descend from a different ancestor.

You can read more about the project here:

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/...x?section=news

Interestingly, descendants of the Lithuanian Gediminid rulers also carry N1c1, but they have a different haplotype, one with typically Baltic markers.

Why do you find it odd?

**Pallantides** · 01-09-2010, 07:45 AM

R1b1b2a1a1*

(*) indicate that they are part of the main haplogroup but don't fit into any of the known subgroups.

**Polako** · 01-09-2010, 12:05 PM

I'm R1a1a. I'd like to know whether I'm R1a1a7 (M458) or some sort of R1a1a (xM458), but I don't see any point in buying an SNP test until European xM458 is broken down further.

**kosmonomad** · 01-09-2010, 03:38 PM

And I am R1a1a all subclades tested negative.

**Electronic God-Man** · 02-20-2010, 01:19 AM

R1b1b2*-M269

**Allenson** · 02-20-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Soten

R1b1b2*-M269

Welcome to the R1b club. Maybe we should make t-shirts & bumper stickers & stuff....?

I'm waiting on my deep clade results.... Due in March.

**Don** · 03-07-2010, 09:19 PM

Too expensive for me now. And I fear they will use my DNA to make a terrible army of clones of myself and conquer the world with such a fearsome and unbeatable specimens... (mhhh that's not so bad after all)

Anyway, I would like know the subgroup, but I'm pretty sure I will be in the R1B1 group since my ancestors are all old Castilian breed with ancient celtiberian Navarre (read Basque here) male founder of my paternal lineage.

**Poltergeist** · 03-07-2010, 10:37 PM

Mine is R1a.

I am Asiatic intruder into teh genetic Europe.

**poiuytrewq0987** · 03-08-2010, 01:19 AM

E1b1b1a2.

Within Europe, E-V13 is especially common in the Balkans and some parts of Italy. In different studies, particularly high frequencies have been observed in Kosovar Albanians (45.6%) (Peričic et al. (2005)), Albanian speakers in the Republic of Macedonia (34.4% reported in Battaglia et al. (2008)), and in some parts of Greece (about 35% in some of the areas studied by King et al. (2008). More generally, high frequencies have also been found in other areas of Greece, and amongst Bulgarians, Romanians, Macedonians, and Serbs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E1b1b1a