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Thread: Russia's creation of an Autonomous Crimea is no different from Nato creating the Republic of Kosovo

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    The US didn't ask permission for the invasion of Iraq, which was a much larger scale.

    Just face it, all the great powers are hypocrites and have no moral ground.
    America did ask premission most states supported America but Russia didn't so America still had a premission.
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    The infidel filth can't see the obvious superiority of the Illyro-Gothic Islamic race...
    Stefan_Dusan on Muslim Bulgarians how they are Albanian lol
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    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims
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    1)Serbians regard them as Albanians
    2)They have Albanian names and try to be Albanians, and many of them have already become this

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissyJona View Post
    I don't believe that, i think that hate eachother only the internet ''soliders'' want this to be true, they hate each other. Not all of them but most. Anyway i don't care, I'm not afraid of Serbs or anyone else if slavs they want to show their power with little nations than they are loosers. Why doesnt they play with USA,GERMANY,FRANCE,UK,JAPAIN but with georgians,albanians, and others?


    I wish in kosovo war there was the same number of Albanians and Serbs with the same weapons and with no help from Russia,USA we would have won. Be sure oif that, but a war between 7.000.000serbs with military and 2.000.000 Albanians with nothing else expect their clothes it was not fair.

    Do you really think Poland and other slavic countries gives a shit about Serbia? Not even russia if it was not about having the same religion, and using serbs as they lives in europe. Don't forget that Russians had such a great realtionship with Albanians at Enver Hozha's period that we called eachother ''Brathers''. Russians loved Albanians when we were communists.
    Poland loves Serbs trust me they do.
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    The infidel filth can't see the obvious superiority of the Illyro-Gothic Islamic race...
    Stefan_Dusan on Muslim Bulgarians how they are Albanian lol
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    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims
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    1)Serbians regard them as Albanians
    2)They have Albanian names and try to be Albanians, and many of them have already become this

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    America did ask premission most states supported America but Russia didn't so America still had a premission.

    No it didnt. Even several of America's major allies were against it. And the US wrought a lot of destruction on Iraq, although it did get rid of a brutal dictator, but anyways, like everything in history, there's chaos and opportunity with every change.

    Every nation is essentially hypocritical and selfish, I don't think this is necessarily wrong because everyone should be mindful of their interests otherwise they are not playing good politics. But great powers violate international law because why? Because they can, that's why.

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    America did ask premission most states supported America
    America did not ask permission to intervene in Yugoslavia during 1999. Action was taken without permition of UN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    No Slavs hate Albanians they Slavs want to COMPLETELY COMPLETELY COMPLETELY wipe Albanians off the map... Albanians are 6million Slavs are over 300 million.
    We hate you because you want to wipe us off. Everyone knows that only Slavs deny it.
    Ask any Slav about Albanians they will tell you "Albanians are gypsies Albanians are Turks" blah blah blah! Just to get others to help them wipe Albanians of the surface of the earth, Slavs will do anything and say anything to make people go against Albanians and attack Albanian in anyway.
    A SLAV IS YOUR BEST FRIEND IF YOU KILL ALBANIANS FOR FUN
    i think you spend too much time on internet

    mostly of the slavs care only about their own country , i can talk about bulgaria , bulgarians generally don't care at all about albanians and also about other slavs , not to mention many bulgarians dislike both EU and russia

    those people you see who talk about slavic union are pan-slavist wich at least in bulgaria are just a small minority and they are always mocked from other bulgarians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pobelter View Post
    America did not ask permission to intervene in Yugoslavia during 1999. Action was taken without permition of UN.
    And the US did not have a treaty with Yugoslavia, like Russia and Ukraine do (For having up to 25.000 Russian troops on the Crimea).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasMeyer View Post
    And the US did not have a treaty with Yugoslavia, like Russia and Ukraine do (For having up to 25.000 Russian troops on the Crimea).
    Ukrainians didn't hurt Russians in Crimea, Serbs did hurt Albanians in Kosovo and everyone saw it with their eyes on TV, so America had a reason Russia doesn't have a real reason.
    Originally posted by CrystalMaiden
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    The infidel filth can't see the obvious superiority of the Illyro-Gothic Islamic race...
    Stefan_Dusan on Muslim Bulgarians how they are Albanian lol
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    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims
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    1)Serbians regard them as Albanians
    2)They have Albanian names and try to be Albanians, and many of them have already become this

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Ukrainians didn't hurt Russians in Crimea, Serbs did hurt Albanians in Kosovo and everyone saw it with their eyes on TV, so America had a reason Russia doesn't have a real reason.
    It was UCK thugs that first started attacking Serbs to provoke violence.

    From the spring of 1998 the Serbian government had been struggling to quell an ever more widespread armed uprising by the KLA which took the form of continued attacks on military and police and armed attempts to expel Serbs from Kosovo. They were clearing the Drenica valley of Serb families, many of which had lived there for generations.

    The KLA carried out abductions, beatings, and murders of Serbs. The Serbs responses to attacks were not focused on finding the guilty individuals. This would have been difficult when much of the Kosovo Albanian population was in sympathy with the aims of the KLA, and those who were not were frightened of reprisals from the KLA if they took sides with the Serbs.

    The Serbs therefore operated on the basis of counter-terror. Their forces would come into an area suspected of harbouring the KLA. They shelled villages, fought with the KLA, and took away or shot the men.


    KLA attacks became bolder and began to move to the towns.

    An exceptional incident occurred on 24 June 1998 when the KLA captured the Belacevac coal mine which was an important source of fuel for the Serbian national grid. It was recaptured by Serbs five days later.

    By the middle of 1998 the KLA controlled one third of Kosovo. The Serbs fought back with a violence which was greater than that of the KLA and were condemned by the United Nations for their actions.

    The KLA had been supported in their action by the United States. Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy to Yugoslavia had even allowed himself to be photographed sitting next to a masked KLA gun man holding a Kalashnikov. This photograph, published in newspapers around the world, sent a clear signal about whose side the US was on. This year (2000) there have been admissions that the CIA trained members of the KLA. Details were published in The Sunday Times on 12 March 2000. http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/ethnicls.html



    Now Albanians are trying to do the same thing in Fyrom:

    Insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia was an armed conflict which began when the ethnic Albanian National Liberation Army (NLA) militant group began attacking the security forces of the Republic of Macedonia at the beginning of February 2001, and ended with the Ohrid Agreement. The goal of the NLA was to give greater rights and autonomy to the country's Albanian minority, who make up 25.2% of the population.[14][15][16] There were also claims that the group ultimately wished to see Albanian-majority areas secede from the country,[17] though high-ranking NLA members have denied this.[14] The conflict lasted throughout most of the year, although overall casualties remained limited to several dozen for either side, according to the sources from both of the sides in the conflict.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurge...c_of_Macedonia

    At the same time they treat the Greek minority in Albania like shit and even kill people for speaking Greek:
    Man Murdered in Albania for Speaking Greek
    http://eu.greekreporter.com/2010/08/...e-spoke-greek/

    The term "Northern Epirus" started to be used by Greeks in 1913, upon the creation of the Albanian state following the Balkan Wars, and the incorporation into the latter of territory that was regarded by many Greeks as geographically, historically, culturally, and ethnologically connected to the Greek region of Epirus since antiquity.[4] In the spring of 1914, the Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus was proclaimed by ethnic Greeks in the territory and recognized by the Albanian government, though it proved short-lived as Albania collapsed with the onset of World War I. Greece held the area between 1914 and 1916 and unsuccessfully tried to annex it in March 1916.[4] In 1917 Greek forces were driven from the area by Italy, who took over most of Albania.[5] The Paris Peace Conference of 1919 awarded the area to Greece, however the area reverted to Albanian control in November 1921, following Greece's defeat in the Greco-Turkish War.[6] During the interwar period, tensions remained high due to the educational issues surrounding the Greek minority in Albania.[4] Following Italy's invasion of Greece from the territory of Albania in 1940 and the successful Greek counterattack, the Greek army briefly held Northern Epirus for a six-month period until the German invasion of Greece in 1941.
    Tensions remained high during the Cold War, as the Greek minority was subjected to repressive measures (along with the rest of the country's population). Although a Greek minority was recognized by the Hoxha regime, this recognition only applied to an "official minority zone" consisting of 99 villages, leaving out important areas of Greek settlement, such as Himara. People outside the official minority zone received no education in the Greek language, which was prohibited in public. The Hoxha regime also diluted the ethnic demographics of the region by relocating Greeks living there and settling in their stead Albanians from other parts of the country.[4] Relations began to improve in the 1980s with Greece's abandonment of any territorial claims over Northern Epirus and the lifting of the official state of war between the two countries.[4] In the post Cold War era relations have continued to improve though tensions remain over the availability of education in the Greek language outside the official minority zone, property rights, and occasional violent incidents targeting members of the Greek minority.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Epirus

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    Russia is gone come out a loser with this move. Putin plaid this hand really bad I think.
    Russia will even risk of losing their veto power at UN for from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    It was UCK thugs that first started attacking Serbs to provoke violence.

    From the spring of 1998 the Serbian government had been struggling to quell an ever more widespread armed uprising by the KLA which took the form of continued attacks on military and police and armed attempts to expel Serbs from Kosovo. They were clearing the Drenica valley of Serb families, many of which had lived there for generations.

    The KLA carried out abductions, beatings, and murders of Serbs. The Serbs responses to attacks were not focused on finding the guilty individuals. This would have been difficult when much of the Kosovo Albanian population was in sympathy with the aims of the KLA, and those who were not were frightened of reprisals from the KLA if they took sides with the Serbs.

    The Serbs therefore operated on the basis of counter-terror. Their forces would come into an area suspected of harbouring the KLA. They shelled villages, fought with the KLA, and took away or shot the men.


    KLA attacks became bolder and began to move to the towns.

    An exceptional incident occurred on 24 June 1998 when the KLA captured the Belacevac coal mine which was an important source of fuel for the Serbian national grid. It was recaptured by Serbs five days later.

    By the middle of 1998 the KLA controlled one third of Kosovo. The Serbs fought back with a violence which was greater than that of the KLA and were condemned by the United Nations for their actions.

    The KLA had been supported in their action by the United States. Richard Holbrooke, the US special envoy to Yugoslavia had even allowed himself to be photographed sitting next to a masked KLA gun man holding a Kalashnikov. This photograph, published in newspapers around the world, sent a clear signal about whose side the US was on. This year (2000) there have been admissions that the CIA trained members of the KLA. Details were published in The Sunday Times on 12 March 2000. http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/ethnicls.html



    Now Albanians are trying to do the same thing in Fyrom:

    Insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The insurgency in the Republic of Macedonia was an armed conflict which began when the ethnic Albanian National Liberation Army (NLA) militant group began attacking the security forces of the Republic of Macedonia at the beginning of February 2001, and ended with the Ohrid Agreement. The goal of the NLA was to give greater rights and autonomy to the country's Albanian minority, who make up 25.2% of the population.[14][15][16] There were also claims that the group ultimately wished to see Albanian-majority areas secede from the country,[17] though high-ranking NLA members have denied this.[14] The conflict lasted throughout most of the year, although overall casualties remained limited to several dozen for either side, according to the sources from both of the sides in the conflict.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurge...c_of_Macedonia

    At the same time they treat the Greek minority in Albania like shit and even kill people for speaking Greek:
    Man Murdered in Albania for Speaking Greek
    http://eu.greekreporter.com/2010/08/...e-spoke-greek/


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Epirus
    Keep your mouth shut Greek, KLA didn't exist during the 1940s Serbs have been Albanians for a very long time long before the creation of KLA.
    Originally posted by CrystalMaiden
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    The infidel filth can't see the obvious superiority of the Illyro-Gothic Islamic race...
    Stefan_Dusan on Muslim Bulgarians how they are Albanian lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims
    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    1)Serbians regard them as Albanians
    2)They have Albanian names and try to be Albanians, and many of them have already become this

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