Eurogenes K13

[Jackson]

Makes sense, very interesting.

[Shuffle]

Mine from South- and Southwest-Germany:

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.98
2 Baltic 23
3 West_Med 15.93
4 East_Med 12.16
5 West_Asian 5.09
6 Oceanian 1.28
7 Siberian 1.03
8 South_Asian 0.58
9 Red_Sea 0.58
10 Amerindian 0.2
11 Northeast_African 0.16


Fits pretty good with West-German, I seem to be a little bit more east-med though.

[Argang]

Reupped the joining trees, they changed slightly. For example, in the second tree MA-1 is now closer to Volga populations, and North Italians and Tuscans cluster no longer with Iberians but with Greeks and South Italians/Sicilians.

[Mazik]

Will be interesting to see how close I am to "La_Brana 1" once the updated calc is up. Considering I'm one of the individuals used for the north_Swedish group in eurogenes. Will also be interesting to compare him with the Saami and half Saami gedmatch relatives I got.

[Argang]

Will be interesting to see how close I am to "La_Brana 1" once the updated calc is up. Considering I'm one of the individuals used for the north_Swedish group in eurogenes. Will also be interesting to compare him with the Saami and half Saami gedmatch relatives I got.

You should be pretty close to La Braña, especially in the K13 calculator. Saami could get close too, though probably more in IBS sharing than in K13. They aren't too dissimilar to Komi which Polako said was turning out most similar to MA-1 and La Braña in his set.

K13 for the Komi looks like this, it's like the Saami results you posted but with 1/3 of the Siberian turned into West Asian.
North Atlantic 21.77
Baltic 45.01
West Med 2.85
West Asian 8.42
East Med 0.03
South Asian 1.66
East Asian 0.08
Siberian 15.53
Amerindian 4.04
Northeast African 0.56
Sub-saharan 0.05

[Jackson]

Inferred the positions of my family members on an MDS plot, i think made by Mfa, or at least shared by him. I'm east of the SE English, nw of south Dutch/west German and southwest of north German. My father is between SE English and north German, or south-east of the Irish/Scots/Orcadians. My grandfather is adjacent to the north Dutch/Danes/north Germans. My grandmother is pretty much on top of the SW-English. My mother is directly north/northwest of the south Dutch. My aunt is just south of the SE English.

It's interesting with these extra splits in the populations. I remember for example there was a study that found a difference between the north and south Dutch, which is played out here too. Also you can clearly see the English are slightly French-influenced compared to other British Islanders, although maybe some samples from central and eastern areas might fill that gap.

La Brana still looks fairly far away from even far northern Europeans on the MDS plot, but it's interesting that he readily clusters with some in a dendrogram.

[Argang]

Inferred the positions of my family members on an MDS plot, i think made by Mfa, or at least shared by him. I'm east of the SE English, nw of south Dutch/west German and southwest of north German. My father is between SE English and north German, or south-east of the Irish/Scots/Orcadians. My grandfather is adjacent to the north Dutch/Danes/north Germans. My grandmother is pretty much on top of the SW-English. My mother is directly north/northwest of the south Dutch. My aunt is just south of the SE English.

It's interesting with these extra splits in the populations. I remember for example there was a study that found a difference between the north and south Dutch, which is played out here too. Also you can clearly see the English are slightly French-influenced compared to other British Islanders, although maybe some samples from central and eastern areas might fill that gap.

La Brana still looks fairly far away from even far northern Europeans on the MDS plot, but it's interesting that he readily clusters with some in a dendrogram.

The clustering is probably affected by variation that isn't expressed in a 2d plot.

[Jackson]

The clustering is probably affected by variation that isn't expressed in a 2d plot.

That would make sense - you know more about it than me.

[Argang]

That would make sense - you know more about it than me.

It seems to be mostly about his Baltic/North Atlantic ratio. In K15 clustering could change again, because his North Sea, Atlantic and Baltic are all within 20-25% range.

[Catkin]

Some of my results Some of the population distances seem quite small.
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.99
2 Baltic 24.47
3 West_Med 12.01
4 West_Asian 7.27
5 East_Med 3.02
6 Oceanian 0.83
7 Red_Sea 0.77
8 Siberian 0.64
9 South_Asian 0.52
10 Amerindian 0.25
11 Sub-Saharan 0.23

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 2.68
2 Irish 2.91
3 Danish 2.99
4 Dutch 3.04
5 West_Scottish 3.64
6 Southeast_English 3.84
7 Southwest_English 4.48
8 German 5.06
9 Norwegian 5.71
10 Swedish 6.93

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.7% Orcadian + 4.3% Lezgin @ 1.39
2 95.7% Orcadian + 4.3% Chechen @ 1.41
3 65.8% Irish + 34.2% German @ 1.45
4 59.3% West_Scottish + 40.7% German @ 1.48
5 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% Adygei @ 1.51
6 96.1% Orcadian + 3.9% North_Ossetian @ 1.51
7 96.5% Orcadian + 3.5% Georgian @ 1.52
8 90.3% Irish + 9.7% Serbian @ 1.54
9 96.7% Orcadian + 3.3% Abhkasian @ 1.54
10 87.1% Irish + 12.9% Austrian @ 1.57


Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.66
2 Baltic 25.29
3 West_Med 12.42
4 West_Asian 7.51
5 East_Med 3.12

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.046
2 Orcadian @ 3.295
3 Danish @ 3.647
4 West_Scottish @ 3.860
5 Dutch @ 4.295
6 Southeast_English @ 4.793
7 Southwest_English @ 5.154
8 Norwegian @ 6.540
9 German @ 7.048
10 Swedish @ 8.052

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.412
2 German + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.433
3 German + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.511
4 German + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.569
5 German + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.605
6 Dutch + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.608
7 Danish + German + Irish + Irish @ 2.626
8 German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.641
9 Danish + German + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.657
10 Dutch + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.666