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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Why is cmv88's father not right next to East Sicily and Greek islands?
    As funny as it may sound, he doesn't have enough ASE / South Indian. You can drift away from a country for these reasons too, even if you lack some African and the average has some. The calculator doesn't care what you consider good or bad, you need all of them to plot closer.

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    If we put every Sicilian and Greek islander on there, they'd make one large cluster and Longbowman would be in it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But Lithuanians have the most WHG...wouldn't you argue Sami are the most Northern-shifted? Except, of course, they don't fit as well with other Europeans. Conventional wisdom isn't correct; the most autochthonous group is the Balts.
    Do you have any information about how much WHG the Sami have on average?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But Lithuanians have the most WHG...wouldn't you argue Sami are the most Northern-shifted? Except, of course, they don't fit as well with other Europeans. Conventional wisdom isn't correct; the most autochthonous group is the Balts.
    How is the WHG calculated? It doesn't look right if an eastern people such as Lithuanians is considered as the northern one instead of a Norwegian. I don't know sami's stats but their look it's eastern looking at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    How is the WHG calculated? It doesn't look right if an eastern people such as Lithuanians is considered as the northern one instead of a Norwegian. I don't know sami's stats but their look it's eastern looking at least.
    It's the Baltic HG, it's where it peaks. Norwegian are more Western, you ll see that even Swedes are more N.Western than Norwegian. It's not a geographical map, it's the point of a PCA like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It's the Baltic HG, it's where it peaks. Norwegian are more Western, you ll see that even Swedes are more N.Western than Norwegian. It's not a geographical map, it's the point of a PCA like this.
    It's an arbitrary choice though.

    A Baltic/d shouldn't be the epitome of northern as it is eastern as we understand and accept east from a geographical and phenotypical point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    It's an arbitrary choice though.

    A Baltic/d shouldn't be the epitome of northern as it is eastern as we understand and accept east from a geographical and phenotypical point of view.
    They have more indigenous HG. Nothing arbitrary it's a genetic reality, but again they lack the Western of typical Scandinavians which make them more European in some sense. What we have in mind as the epitome of Northern European is Northern but also Western. It isn't only made of "North stuff".

    You can also see it like this if you prefer, it's more natural with our geographical perception :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    How is the WHG calculated? It doesn't look right if an eastern people such as Lithuanians is considered as the northern one instead of a Norwegian. I don't know sami's stats but their look it's eastern looking at least.
    Similarity with Mesolithic Europeans like Lochsbour.

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