Are you happy with your haplogroups?

[Profileid]

You are right.
It is like: are you happy abouyt your parents? About four family or, are you happy that you are who you are?

It's actually not like that at all

[Longbowman]

You are right.
It is like: are you happy abouyt your parents? About four family or, are you happy that you are who you are?

So, considering you said you were disappointed, you are disappointed in who you are and who your family is, yes?

[Rethel]

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[Rethel]

So, considering you said you were disappointed, you are disappointed in who you are and who your family is, yes?

No.

If you are making a genealogical research, and you find - oh, my granpa
was named John, like 50% of people at that time in that village, I hoped
he was named Athaulf or something similar... - it means, that you are
disapointed in your grandpa per se?

I simply have so problems with hgs, so I was prepered for every opportunity. If R - ok,
fine, if Q - fine too, I am uniqe aso. If I would be uniqe, my reaction would be.. oh... I
am asian... ok, not problem - similar to the majority result. And I knew some things about
hgs and their ethnical connections at that time, so it was for me known as an option from
many known to me possibilities. Simply - I do not emotionate about this, and my surprize
could be long as 5 seconds max. So this is not something what you can call as being
disapointed in family, rather as a became aware of nothing exotic.

At the time when I was tested it was known only that hgs existed, and when I get my
results, it was only a map of Europe with five points on her - unique too, but until this
day I have no idea what it meant. One guy in south Poland, one in Bukarest, in Kyjev,
one in Riga and one somewhere between Hungary Serbia or Romania - I dont remember
exactly. So at that time it gave me not to much about my origin, and about my direct
rethelness - am I rethel or not... Especially, that I expected something similar to the
area of Germany, Italy or something common with western Europe. It wasn't good time
for specific subclades and long specific describings.

But of course after that I was happy becasue it was mine hg,
and still I am happy about my indoeuropeandom as it is visible.

This is why I don't get, why someone can be not happy with hg which he has.
Simply he has it, the same as he has some family, clan and nationality - and this
is objectivly exactly the same in every case.

If I would be Q, N, E whatever, I would be then interested in culture, history, race,
and possibly language, of that group of people, because it would be mine hg, no
matter what hg - coincidently I have R1, so I am interested in that group of people.

Btw, I knew more than decade before I was tested, that I can't be sure who am I according
to ancient population (present big population groups), neither that I am a local Oldeuropean,
neither that I am a new Indoeuropean, or that I am some traveller from who knows where...
Obvious was, that people mixed and there was no way to know that for sure, so I was quitely
laughing in my room as a child over all racists and people who were aryanists-indoeuropeists,
becasue there was probablity, that they are not, who they think they are, or wish to be - and
for that to know, there was no need of hg research my jewish fellow. It was enaugh to think
about it a little...

So I knew, that I can be IE, OE, ME, Asian, whatever, since many years before hg were created
and known. Hg on her own is nothing and means nothing. It has a meaning only, if is a signature
of something else. This is why Y-hgs are meaningfull and mt-hgs are not. If a gen of the little
toe in the left leg would described the lineage and tribe, then he would be important, not Y-hg.

So the letter of hg has the same meaning as letters in this word, describing something
different, than shape of letters and themselves. Aren't they? The same is with any other
expression of similar things, as surname, genealogy, language, name of tribe aso, which
have meaning only, when they are conected to something. It is not enaugh (for example)
to have surnmane smith to be "our smith" - there is need for something more, and the
same is with hgs, which are describing paleoethnicities, which had their own life, territory,
customs, languages, sometimes race and history, which has continuity until this day,
becasue you can describe the such things as Indoeuropeans, Semites, Chineses, Amerindians...

And this is what gives the importance of such thing as hg - the letter is not importnat,
important is the contens and adds to that particular lineage what means people from
that lineage, becasue lineage without people is empty also.

[Wanderer]

I don't know what mine is, and I wouldn't care what it is.

[Charles Bronson]

I don't know what mine is, and I wouldn't care what it is.

Maybe a Turkic Hg from a Tatar.

[Wanderer]

Maybe a Turkic Hg from a Tatar.

A couple interesting things about the haplogroup breakdowns for Ukrainians

-More J than you might otherwise think.

-More Q than any other European population, it appears.

-Notable presence of E3b

-Very little N3, unlike Russians

The following pie chart for Ukrainians doesn't exactly strongly resemble any other European population.

Anyone who doesn't think Ukrainians are a unique population is quite mistaken.

[Norka]

Maybe a Turkic Hg from a Tatar.

[ЛыSSый]

Anyone who doesn't think Ukrainians are a unique population is quite mistaken.

let me say some more to you: any population is unique by definition. And it's not secret that russians by whole middile centuries slavicied civilicied different wild tribes.

[Rethel]

This guy is very similar to Ruuriikko...