View Poll Results: How much Indo-European (CHG_EEF+EHG+SHG_WHG+IRAN_NEOLITHIC) you score?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugevit View Post
    Earliest R1a are found in Mesolithic Karelia and Zhizhitskaya of later neolithic on border of Belarus and Russia. On the other hand Yamanya has been test for R1b only. We should embrace our Uralic heritage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Here it is:

    Dominant Y-DNA by region at the onset of the Neolithization of Europe:

    Region: dominant "indigeneous" Y-DNA haplogroups

    1. Western and Central Europe: I2a, I1, I2c, C1a2
    2. European part of Russia: R1a, R1b, Q1a
    3. Caucasus region (Georgia): J1b, J2a
    4. Western Asia*: G2, E1, J2, R2, T, G1, H2, L1, F3

    *Samples from Anatolia, from the Levant and from Iran.


    The most mysterious - due to their scarcity in aDNA so far - are J1 and N1c.

    We have J1b in a hunter-gatherer from Georgia, but then there is a long "gap" and the next relevant sample - J1a dated to 2500-1950 BC - is from the Levant (Ain Ghazal, Early Bronze Age). When it comes to N1c the oldest sample in Europe, dated to 2500 BC, is from the region of Smolensk.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...a-8000-5000-BC

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    M2783 is a marker under N1c1 mutated around 2,500 years ago. Modern day carriers live in Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, north-western Russia. Few in Poland. Populations that have significant amount of M2783 seem to score the highest early IE admixture in many tests. There's a strong, positive correlation between N1c1-M2783 and genome of early IE.

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    68,29%

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 CHG_EEF 40.02
    2 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.64
    3 EHG 12.55
    4 SHG_WHG 11.56
    5 NATUFIAN 7.17
    6 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 4.16
    7 SE_ASIAN 2.79
    8 SUB_SAHARAN 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian 5.98
    2 Romanian 6.11
    3 French 8.19
    4 Albanian 9.04
    5 Croatian 9.17
    6 Hungarian 11.44
    7 Greek 12.01
    8 English 14.21
    9 Czech 14.91
    10 Scottish 15.44
    11 Sicilian 15.94
    12 Italian_South 16.64
    13 Ukrainian 16.65
    14 Jew_Ashkenazi 18.2
    15 Norwegian 18.24
    16 Icelandic 18.38
    17 Europe_LNBA 21.59
    18 Russian 21.72
    19 Sardinian 22.6
    20 Finnish 22.73

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.8% Romanian + 8.2% Europe_MNChL @ 3.36
    2 93.2% Romanian + 6.8% Europe_EN @ 3.54
    3 94.2% Romanian + 5.8% Anatolia_N @ 3.71
    4 90.5% Croatian + 9.5% Anatolia_N @ 3.81
    5 89.7% Romanian + 10.3% Stuttgart @ 3.93
    6 89.3% Croatian + 10.7% Europe_EN @ 3.93
    7 53.2% French + 46.8% Albanian @ 3.97
    8 86.3% Croatian + 13.7% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.01
    9 79.3% Hungarian + 20.7% Stuttgart @ 4.16
    10 88% French + 12% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.16
    11 83.3% Croatian + 16.7% Stuttgart @ 4.17
    12 83.5% Romanian + 16.5% Sardinian @ 4.26
    13 88.2% Hungarian + 11.8% Anatolia_N @ 4.39
    14 68.9% French + 31.1% Sicilian @ 4.41
    15 87.6% Croatian + 12.4% Europe_MNChL @ 4.47
    16 92.8% Romanian + 7.2% Anatolia_ChL @ 4.61
    17 62.2% French + 37.8% Greek @ 4.65
    18 86.8% Hungarian + 13.2% Europe_EN @ 4.69
    19 79.1% French + 20.9% Jew_Moroccan @ 4.83
    20 81.6% French + 18.4% Cypriot @ 4.88

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    76.92%

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    63,48%

    And 50% of it is EHG ofc.

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    I suspect Scandinavians, Finns, Balts, Belarusians, north-western Russians will score the highest. Any people who are sincere let us know if you have the score above 85%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugevit View Post
    M2783 is a marker under N1c1 mutated around 2,500 years ago. Modern day carriers live in Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, north-western Russia. Few in Poland. Populations that have significant amount of M2783 seem to score the highest early IE admixture in many tests. There's a strong, positive correlation between N1c1-M2783 and genome of early IE.
    N1c1 have brought from east Asia. has no relation to PIE.
    By the way, just according to Verenich, the Belarusian geneticist, at ancestors of Belarusians the Siberian impurity has appeared 2500 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSlava View Post
    N1c1 have brought from east Asia. has no relation to PIE.
    By the way, just according to Verenich, the Belarusian geneticist, at ancestors of Belarusians the Siberian impurity has appeared 2500 years ago.
    ! All haplogroupes brought in Europe from Asia. Perhaps I is native to Europe. Although it's related to J and was probably spread from Anatholia. Vadim Verenich lives in Estonia , who is a professional linguist. Population genetics is his hobby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugevit View Post
    I suspect Scandinavians, Finns, Balts, Belarusians, north-western Russians will score the highest. Any people who are sincere let us know if you have the score above 85%.
    If Yamnaya was halfway between Iranian Neotholic and Eastern Europe hunter gatherers, Eastern Iranics (Pamiris, Pashtuns, Tajiks, etc), and Eastern Europeans like the ones you mentioned should score the highest.

    However Yamnaya culture was huge, and some parts of it should have been closer to eastern europeans and Northern Europeans like Swedes, Lithuanians, etc as well. Western Yamnaya could have been the origin of r1b.
    Learn some about Afghans here
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...of-Afghanistan

    Indian Genomics can be modeled by four-way populations, not two way populations. Read more in this thread:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...tion-structure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myanthropologies View Post
    If Yamnaya was halfway between Iranian Neotholic and Eastern Europe hunter gatherers, Eastern Iranics (Pamiris, Pashtuns, Tajiks, etc), and Eastern Europeans like the ones you mentioned should score the highest.

    However Yamnaya culture was huge, and some parts of it should have been closer to eastern europeans and Northern Europeans like Swedes, Lithuanians, etc as well. Western Yamnaya could have been the origin of r1b.
    Ancient Iranic such as people of Sintashta (southern Ural) are genetically different to modern day Iranic people. Ancient Iranic of Sintashta are geneticall most similar to eastern and northern Europeans. See the PCA plot below based on Eurogenes K7 run. Two Iranic of Sintashta are genetically similar to me and Swedes.

    We don't know anything about genetic profiles of western Yamnya people. We can only speculate about their genetic profiles


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