Dodecad Ancestry Project

[Sikeliot]

Is there any genetic difference between Norwegians and Swedes?

[Agrippa]

No major one, but in this analysis, Swedes have a very small but still noticeable "West Asian" component, while Norwegians largely don't and Swedish also have a stronger NE-European component.

[Pallantides]

Is there any genetic difference between Norwegians and Swedes?

Genetic differences vary and it also depend largly on what region someone is from, for example a western Swede could be genetically closer to a eastern Norwegian than he is a person from Northern Sweden, also take into consideration the different Historical outside influences , Forest Finns in eastern Norway and central Sweden, Saami influence in Northern Scandinavia, Scottish immigration to western Norway and the German immigration to the major trading cities.

From the K-11 results, some Swedes seem to have a small amount of West Asian admixture wich is absent in the Norwegian participants.


But I don't think there are enough participants to see the major differences in the Scandinavian regions yet.

[Franz]

He found two Iraqi Jews that were related to each other which caused the informative 12th cluster to appear. He’s going to do another comprehensive analysis which will probably include IDs not included in the one already done. I would expect to more clusters on the new one.

[Pallantides]

Here are the British and Irish K-11 sheets:

[Loki]

^^ It's amazing that the British and Irish are so alike ... almost as if the Anglo-Saxons didn't change the genetic composition at all ... or, were very similar to the Celts anyway.

[hereward]

^^ It's amazing that the British and Irish are so alike ... almost as if the Anglo-Saxons didn't change the genetic composition at all ... or, were very similar to the Celts anyway.

I don’t think the above graphs could demonstrate that event. You would probably need to have separate populations from Wales, Scotland, Ireland, England Netherlands, Denmark, Northern France and Norway. In fact, because of the past 400 years, you would probably have to restrict the Irish samples to Connaught & Western Munster and the Welsh samples to North Wales. It would be extremely complicated; maybe beyond the scope of what Dienekes and Polako can achieve even if they wished.
You have to remember that this is the year 2011 not 1011. Nearly every European nation has undergone demographic change in the last 1000 years.
To investigate if a population movement truly happened at a certain time, the investigator would have to take into account the documented population movements/changes (variables) that happened after the event which one is investigating.
In the case of the 'Anglo-Saxon' settlement of England, one has to realise that today’s average Englishman, depending on the generation, has documented ancestry from Ireland, Scotland and Wales totaling 30-50%. This demographic change is a result of three events; The act of union, The Industrial revolution and English immigration to the New world.
The modern populations of France, Russia, Hungary etc. surely cannot be fully representative of their forefathers, History tells us so.

[Pallantides]

After seeing these results, I think we need to close the Norwegian border totally ... I don't want any of that green stuff in my future children.

Not even Brits, Germans and Swedes may enter the kingdom of Norway.

[Sikeliot]

Does someone have the graphs for the Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, and Greeks? I'd like to see those.

[Pallantides]

Does someone have the graphs for the Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, and Greeks? I'd like to see those.

K-11 sheets for Spanish, Portuguese, Italians and Greeks