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Thread: Prehistoric Romanian (~40,000 years old) in GEDmatch

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    other paleolithic Europeans like Kostenki14 also had a lot of ASI/Andamanese.
    Kostenki14 looks like a tropically-adapted human and he does show Australoid-like features.

    Just ask member Physical-Anthro from this forum, he will confirm.

    Also Kostenki14 carried Y-DNA haplogroup C1b, the same as modern Australian Aborigines.
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    Thats a funny admixture you got but that shows MLD is really bad at comparing populations.
    Also Its confusing puerto rican with European spaniard/ basque. Every other Admix mixed population European component has spaniard or iberian something on it

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 50.2% Onge ( ) + 49.8% Puerto_Rican ( ) @ 20.75
    2 76% Ayta_AE ( ) + 24% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 20.81
    3 78.4% Ayta_AE ( ) + 21.6% Basque_French ( ) @ 20.94
    4 78.2% Ayta_AE ( ) + 21.8% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 20.99
    5 66.3% Ayta_AE ( ) + 33.7% Puerto_Rican ( ) @ 21.09
    6 74.8% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.2% French_South ( ) @ 21.2
    7 74.3% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.7% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 21.46
    8 74.4% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.6% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 21.47
    9 74.6% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.4% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 21.63
    10 57.2% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 42.8% Australian_ECCAC ( ) @ 21.67
    11 74.8% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.2% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 21.77
    12 54.5% Tamil_Singapore ( ) + 45.5% Puerto_Rican ( ) @ 21.78
    13 73.7% Ayta_AE ( ) + 26.3% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 21.79
    14 72.5% Ayta_AE ( ) + 27.5% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 21.8
    15 69.4% Ayta_AE ( ) + 30.6% Orcadian ( ) @ 21.81
    16 73.6% Ayta_AE ( ) + 26.4% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) @ 21.83
    17 74.7% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.3% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 21.84
    18 73.6% Ayta_AE ( ) + 26.4% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 21.87
    19 74.3% Ayta_AE ( ) + 25.7% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 21.91
    20 69.6% Ayta_AE ( ) + 30.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 21.94
    My mother is full puerto rican

    It placed her several other ethnicities before puerto rican



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    LMFAO. There is no evidence for that whatsoever.
    I mean, you're right. Outbred, whatever.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
    oldschool anthropology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Kostenki14 looks like a tropically-adapted human and he does show Australoid-like features.

    Just ask member Physical-Anthro from this forum, he will confirm.

    Also Kostenki14 carried Y-DNA haplogroup C1b, the same as modern Australian Aborigines.
    Kostenki-14 isn't any more tropically adapted than any other and doesn't have Australoid features. Kostenki was C-M130 which is an East Asian haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Kostenki-14 isn't tropically adapted and doesn't have Australoid features.
    He is, and he does. Sorry but Physical-Anthro is a better expert in anthropology than you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Kostenki was C-M130.
    He was C1b according to "Genetic History of Ice Age Europe" (Fu et al. 2016 publication).

    C1b is the most common haplogroup among pure-blooded Australian Aborigines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    He is, and he does. Sorry but Physical-Anthro is a better expert in anthropology than you.



    He was C1b according to "Genetic History of Ice Age Europe" (Fu et al. 2016 publication).

    C1b is the most common haplogroup among pure-blooded Australian Aborigines.
    C1b is 15000 years old. So it cant be c1b is kostenki is 40000 years old

    http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l12...8/cz/c/c1/c1b/

    Edit NVM you mean Y-dna

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    He is, and he does. Sorry but Physical-Anthro is a better expert in anthropology than you.



    He was C1b according to "Genetic History of Ice Age Europe" (Fu et al. 2016 publication).

    C1b is the most common haplogroup among pure-blooded Australian Aborigines.
    Physical antro knows nothing about anthropology, has been severely humiliated on this forum multiple times, anyone who gets information from him has been completely misinformed. The skull is not tropically adapted.


    Kostenski 14 is C M-130. He is genetically most closely related to modern Scandinavians.

    C* (M130) was also identified in prehistoric remains, dating from 34,000 years BP, found in Russia and known as "Kostenki 14".[11]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_C-M130

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    You dumb Polak piece of shit: you can not use admixture on these kind of ancient specimen who are older than modern races/populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    Prehistoric Europeans were more mixed than I thought

    so Australian aborigine = south Eurasian?
    They are actually not mixed. It's because we are using modern population to describe them. But it's the other way around, it's us who have ancestry from them.

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    This quote was taken from a posting on the internet:

    "...Certain cranial features, including very narrow braincase, low and narrow face, marked prognathism (anterior protrusion of the midface), and very wide nose, are typical of tropical populations. The trait combination links the cranium with those of Papuans and Melanesians.
    A broad nose and an anteriorly projecting midface are not tropical adaptations. Neanderthals evolved extremely wide noses and projecting maxillary bones while living in high altitude, glacial-to-cold regions of Europe and Central Asia. The wide nasal opening and large maxillary sinuses serve to maximize the storage of nitric oxide which is a fuel for muscular activity which is used to generate body heat. I get so sick and tired of people claiming that wide noses are a tropical feature. Kostenki-14 has a wide nose because he had very high levels of Neanderthal admixture. Tropically adapted, indigenous African crania all have narrow noses:

    Idaltu African skull:





    Kabwe skull (Africa)



    Jebel Irhoud skull (Africa) next to Neanderthal (Europe):



    Dar es Soltane (Africa):




    Narrow nose is a proto-nigroid and African tropical-savannah-interglacial characteristic.


    The narrow braincase and small facial dimensions of Kostenki are primarily a reflection of the fact that he was born with congenital microcephaly.
    Last edited by Grab the Gauge; 02-02-2017 at 02:49 PM.

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