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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    This is a lie spread by some media. In fact there is no scientific consensus:



    From:

    https://openpsych.net/paper/7

    http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity....ne,%202015.pdf
    Anthropology is just inferior to biology and genetics. It can never overcome positive sciences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    I never called anyone sub-human.
    I did not say it to you. The person that I am referring to knows himself.

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    Race is not merely defined by who can or cannot mate with each-other, but mostly by who will not mate with each-other. And this fact is clearer and more obvious than any liberal science or propaganda. Some groups of humans, races, will not mate with others.

    Here are the hard facts:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interr..._United_States
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interr...te-census10-13

    White Husband 50,410,000 97.7% 168,000 0.3% 529,000 1.0% 487,000 0.9%
    Black Husband 390,000 8.6% 4,072,000 89.2% 39,000 0.9% 66,000 1.3%
    Asian Husband 219,000 7.0% 9,000 0.3% 2,855,000 91.8% 28,000 0.9%
    Other Husband 488,000 44.0% 18,000 1.6% 37,000 3.4% 568,000 51.0%

    Based on these figures:

    White Americans were statistically the least likely to wed interracially, though in absolute terms they were involved in interracial marriages more than any other racial group due to their demographic majority. 2.1% of married White women and 2.3% of married White men had a non-White spouse. 1.0% of all married White men were married to an Asian American woman, and 1.0% of married White women were married to a man classified as "other".
    4.6% of married Black American women and 10.8% of married Black American men had a non-Black spouse. 8.5% of married Black men and 3.9% of married Black women had a White spouse. 0.2% of married Black women were married to Asian American men, representing the least prevalent marital combination.
    There is a notable disparity in the rates of exogamy by Asian American males and females. Of all Asian American/White marriages, only 29% involved an Asian American male and a White female. However Indian American males had higher outmarriage for males than females, although Indian Americans displayed the highest rates of endogamy, with very low levels of outmarriage overall. Of all Asian American/Black marriages only 19% involved an Asian American male and a Black female. 17.5% of married Asian American women and 8.2% of married Asian American men had a non-Asian American spouse.
    In 2006, 88% of foreign-born White Hispanic males were married to White Hispanic females. In terms of out-marriage, Hispanic males who identified as White had non-Hispanic wives more often than other Hispanic men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    In 1950 when those people (link) declared that "race is a myth", modern genetics was non-existent:

    http://europe.newsweek.com/there-no-...e-283123?rm=eu



    Modern genetics has actually supported the existence of genetic clusters within the human species.

    1950 was like Stone Age when it comes to genetic knowledge.
    These genetic clusters are ethnicities. Ethnicities exist but races are just social constructs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fl1994 View Post
    You have proven that you are not intelligent enough to understand what I mean.
    All you say is simple propaganda, lies.

    Lies are vicious and evil, to try to deny other people their race and heritage.

    Your propaganda is immoral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    All human races can and will mate with each other. But that's not the point.

    Here is a good definition of race:

    "Races are organismic groups which differentiated from one another as a result of historic patterns of filiation; they are groups, which due to histories of sufficient linebreeding, form intraspecific natural divisions, ones which can be identified based on the correlations between the organisms' inherited characters."
    Tigers and lions, horses and donkeys, can be forced to mate with each-other, but that doesn't mean it's natural or that they should.

    Same with humans, forcing different races to mix, doesn't provide evidence contrary to the existence of race or ethnicity.

    All it proves is that some people (liberals) have an agenda and propaganda to force against others.


    It is in the vested interest of some people, to deny their own race and heritage, for various reasons.

    But that doesn't mean that everybody should follow-along with those that hate themselves, hate their own kind, their own ethnicity, and hate their own race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    Tigers and lions, horses and donkeys, can be forced to mate with each-other, but that doesn't mean it's natural or that they should.

    Same with humans, forcing different races to mix, doesn't provide evidence contrary to the existence of race or ethnicity.

    All it proves is that some people (liberals) have an agenda and propaganda to force against others.


    It is in the vested interest of some people, to deny their own race and heritage, for various reasons.

    But that doesn't mean that everybody should follow-along with those that hate themselves, hate their own kind, their own ethnicity, and hate their own race.
    Do you know that there is no such thing as race in terms of biological taxonomy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    There are taxa or genetic clusters (if using the traditional term race is triggering you).
    It does not trigger me but the fact that I say races are just cultures and societies seems to be triggering you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    Any two humans = fertile offspring.
    Not necessarily, and children through miscegenation develop complexes and loss of (racial-ethnic) identity.

    Furthermore racial divisions accentuate who will not mate with each-other.

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    The whole race discussion is incredibly stupid. Genetics in and of itself tells us absolutely nothing because data in and of itself tells nothing. Information is processed and interpreted by people, who then categorize it. Saying a race is such and such a genetic proximity in terms of genetic calculations doesn't make sense when the concept of race preceded the study of genetics and was never defined as such. Geneticists coming along and claiming that races don't exist because of some arbitrary interpretation of numbers is stupid because they are bringing in a new concept of race and because it is a completely arbitrary one.

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