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    Population

    Amerindian -
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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In View Post
    who is the Kurd reference btw. ? where is he/she from etc. ?
    Not one person 15 Kurds are in average. Most samples are from groups bigger than 10 people. Most of Near East have about 15-30 persons in averages.
    French have 40. Poland mean sample 90. Welsh 40 etc.

    Give me some results for Kurds in K36 and I check if their results are close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I am trying to find trends in these results but I cannot, other than that Palermo is a very diverse cluster, Trapani is a bit northward shifted, Agrigento and Messina very exotic, and some of the Aegean islands are much more "northern" shifted than others.
    It's for checking population distances and possible or real ancestry breakdown.

    For trends ratehr PCA is better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Not one person 15 Kurds are in average.

    Give me some results for Kurds in K36 and I check if their results are close.
    well I am at distance 7.6 which means that those 15 Kurds are mostly from other areas . I hope you didnt use the "Kurd_SE" stuff from the member "Kurd" because they arent Kurds

    and I have only gedmatch Kits from Kurds of my homeprovince only

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Albania_North @ 8,74224
    2 GR_Peloponese2 @ 9,523942
    3 GR_Istanbul @ 11,072841
    4 Kosovar @ 11,321755
    5 Albania_South @ 11,743854
    6 GR_Cyclades @ 11,89258
    7 Gr_Eubea @ 12,050963
    8 Greek_Peloponnes @ 12,154212
    9 GR_Epirus @ 12,319808
    10 GR_Macedonia2 @ 12,701951
    11 GR_Pontic @ 12,828847
    12 Greek_Macedonia @ 12,958399
    13 Gr_Andros @ 14,091777
    14 IT_Friuli @ 14,715422
    15 Gr_Chios @ 14,743386
    16 Bulgarian @ 14,921393
    17 GR_Kythera @ 15,197183
    18 Macedonian @ 15,354556
    19 Montenegrian @ 15,524152
    20 Sicily_Trapani @ 15,653014
    179 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North @ 7,820336
    2 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North @ 8,02006
    3 GR_Peloponese2+Albania_North @ 8,167981
    4 Albania_North+Albania_North @ 8,74224
    5 GR_Pontic+Albania_North @ 8,821612
    6 Greek_Macedonia+Albania_North @ 9,138745
    7 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Istanbul @ 9,346425
    8 Kosovar+GR_Cyclades @ 9,445246
    9 Gr_Chios+Albania_North @ 9,492927
    10 Gr_Eubea+Albania_North @ 9,497192


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,525328
    2 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Albania_North @ 7,539834
    3 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Peloponese2 +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,724989
    4 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Peloponese2 +25% GR_Istanbul @ 7,790597
    5 50% GR_Cyclades +25% Albania_North +25% Albania_North @ 7,820336
    6 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% Albania_North @ 7,846979
    7 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% GR_Pontic @ 7,875151
    8 50% Albania_North +25% Greek_Macedonia +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,893467
    9 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Pontic +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,902549
    10 50% Albania_North +25% Bulgarian +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,971649


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 GR_Istanbul+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_Nort h @ 7,525328
    2 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North+Albania_No rth @ 7,539834
    3 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_N orth @ 7,724989
    4 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Istanbul+Albania_North+Albania_N orth @ 7,790597
    5 GR_Cyclades+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_Nort h @ 7,820336
    6 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North+Albania_North+Albania_No rth @ 7,846979
    7 GR_Istanbul+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,875151
    8 Greek_Macedonia+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_ North @ 7,893467
    9 GR_Pontic+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,902549
    10 Bulgarian+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,971649



    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Albania_North @ 4,405153
    2 Kosovar @ 4,754171

    3 GR_Peloponese2 @ 4,841369
    4 Greek_Macedonia @ 4,912277
    5 GR_Cyclades @ 4,987101
    6 IT_Friuli @ 5,09373
    7 Macedonian @ 5,220389
    8 Montenegrian @ 5,422777
    9 Albania_South @ 5,488561
    10 Bulgarian @ 5,590263
    11 Greek_Peloponnes @ 5,704277
    12 North_Italy @ 5,823557
    13 IT_Veneto @ 5,881629
    14 GR_Istanbul @ 6,090501
    15 Gr_Eubea @ 6,132034
    16 Serbian @ 6,188674
    17 Greek_Azov @ 6,85353
    18 GR_Macedonia2 @ 7,037438
    19 Bosnian @ 7,156192
    20 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 7,313808
    179 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 GR_Istanbul+GR_Pontic @ 4,357899
    2 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North @ 4,365387
    3 GR_Cyclades+IT_Friuli @ 4,366582
    4 Greek_Macedonia+Albania_North @ 4,390979
    5 Albania_North+Albania_North @ 4,405153
    6 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North @ 4,428456
    7 GR_Pontic+Austria @ 4,433299
    8 GR_Pontic+IT_Friuli @ 4,444079
    9 GR_Epirus+Austria @ 4,45475
    10 GR_Cyclades+IT_Veneto @ 4,459869

    Those are bit strange probably for your ancestry.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Epirus @ 3,874484
    2 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Pontic @ 3,984715
    3 50% GR_Pontic +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Epirus @ 4,075912
    4 50% GR_Pontic +25% Albania_North +25% Austria @ 4,075938
    5 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% Gr_Kalymnos @ 4,085688


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus @ 3,874484
    2 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic @ 3,984715
    3 GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Austria @ 4,049744
    4 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic+GR_Pontic @ 4,075912
    5 GR_Pontic+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Austria @ 4,075938

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    It's for checking population distances and possible or real ancestry breakdown.

    For trends ratehr PCA is better.
    So what I'd ask is, if you can make two clusters out of Palermo, with some of them being like Trapani, who are the others closest to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In View Post
    well I am at distance 7.6 which means that those 15 Kurds are mostly from other areas . I hope you didnt use the "Kurd_SE" stuff from the member "Kurd" because they arent Kurds

    and I have only gedmatch Kits from Kurds of my homeprovince only
    No. I find them on Gedmatch. They are from Iraq, Iran and Turkey so the average is more distant from you. You are Turkish Kurd yes?
    You can sent me PM with kits. You see I use them only in averages. Or you can send me their results in K36 only. And I make regional sample from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    No. I find them on Gedmatch. they are from Iraq, Iran and Turkey so the average is more distant from you. As you are Turkish Kurd yes?
    You can sent me PM with kits. You see I use them only in averages. Or you can send me their results in K36 only. And I make regional sample from them.
    yes I am from Turkey

    I will send you Kurdish results from my homeplace soon . thank you buddy

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    I notice Andros, Chios, and Cyclades are mainland Greek shifted to some degree.

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    Can you do me, three quarters slovak, one quarter american mix, mostly british isles with some german and french ancestry. kit A100643

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    Amerindian -
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    Armenian 0.21
    Basque 1.52
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 5.72
    East_African -
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    East_Balkan 3.89
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