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You mean J2b2-M241 and it's Euro branches can be called as a Illyrian, unlike J2b1-M205 which is more connected to Roman expansion.
E-V13 is highly ''indoeuropeanised'' before it's expansion with Romans, Greeks, Thracians or even Germans.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001
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Sicilians today have some of the lowest, if not the lowest, WHG in Europe. Therefore, these samples must predate CHG genes in Europe, and imply that the original WHG population has been replaced by Near Eastern input that is comparatively recent.
"We report new data from hunter-gatherers from France, Sicily and Croatia, as well as higher
246 coverage data from three previously published hunter-gatherers from France and Germany.18
247 The Sicilian and Croatian individuals dating to 12,000 and 6100 BCE cluster closely with
248 western hunter-gatherers, including individuals from Loschbour24 (Luxembourg, 6100 BCE),
249 Bichon20 (Switzerland, 11,700 BCE), and Villabruna18 (Italy 12,000 BCE). These results
250 demonstrate that the “western hunter-gatherer” population24 was widely distributed from the
251 Atlantic seaboard of Europe in the West, to Sicily in the South, to the Balkan Peninsula in the
252 Southeast, for at least six thousand years, strengthening the evidence that the western hunter-
253 gatherers represent a population that expanded from a southeastern European refugium
254 following the last Ice Age around 15,000 years ago–in the process displacing or admixing
255 with the existing population of western Europe.18 38"


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The sample from Sicily is in the mesolithic, the surprising part (or not) is they were exactly like the other mesolithic WHG back then, even in Sicily, so yea extremely different than today population but that predates by long all the neolithic and bronze age influences that came much later.



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Zemunica Cave, Croatia E-L618 (7600-7470 ybp), father clade of E-V13.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +50% Serbian @ 2.265001
Originally Posted by The Destroyer
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