Iron Age and Early Medieval Polish DNA coming soon

[Peterski]

These are just "screenig" results and based on 2000 markers, so might be inaccurate.

According to Vadim and Polako. Well, we are waiting for the publication of the study.

[Jana]

Will there be Y/mt DNA from medieval Polish samples ? Many are curious for this.

[Rethel]

MAs_5 (Maslomecz Wielbark) doesn't have any negro Maybe I wasn't clear.

And they still there are...

[The Illyrian Warrior]

These are just "screenig" results and based on 2000 markers, so might be inaccurate.

According to Vadim and Polako. Well, we are waiting for the publication of the study.

2000 markers tells you nothing, eurogene k36 takes about 165k markers to give you a thoroughly results.

When will study be publicated, I'm really interested if they will tell us more about E sample, what subclade it belong.

[PunhetaDeBacalhau]

MAs_5 (Maslomecz Wielbark) doesn't have any negro Maybe I wasn't clear.

He is Germanic!

North_Sea 42.74
Central_Euro 24.69
Eastern_Euro 14.69
French 13.58
East_Balkan 2.19
Italian 1.31
Volga-Ural 0.80

Yeah he's not just Germanic, he's uber-Germanic - 42.74 North Sea and 25 Central Euro, he's not playing around From my knowledge, no population today is close to them. Have you guys uncovered the other samples from that culture? Are they all alike?

[Lucas]

Will there be Y/mt DNA from medieval Polish samples ? Many are curious for this.

Try to figure out from this

Niemcza_18 snps Y-DNA

PF432-, PF435-, Z16963-, PF2911-, S26895-, Z5965-, S5674-, Z2947-, Z16329-, S14469-, YSC0000139-, YSC0000140-, S14590-, YSC0000147-, YSC0000148-, YSC0000149-, PF1619-, Z14873-, PF7426-, PF633-, CTS1548-, CTS1549-, CTS1660-, M4477-, CTS1677-, CTS1730-, CTS2305-, Z6239-, Z2047-, S15798-, S7821-, ZS276-, CTS2520-, Z1599-, Z6363-, M9112+, M10644-, S6813-, PF7025-, CTS3503-, S27776-, YSC0000697-, M11278-, S16785-, CTS3796-, S4893-, Z2081-, S6842-, M9808-, PF718-, PF3479-, CTS4072-, PR5521-, L1125+, M319-, M215-, Page40-, PF1942-, CTS4198-, S17221-, CTS4436-, FGC7967-, Y2989-, PR1963-, PR5640-, PR1964-, CTS4759-, CTS4816-, CTS4914-, Z28866-, CTS4991-, PF4251-, CTS5014-, M1368-, CTS5109-, CTS5110-, Z1890-, S17823-, YSC0000774-, PR5707-, PR5708-, PR5709-, S18007-, Z12458-, CTS5532+, M5694+, S18173-, M7490-, PR2128-, CTS5758-, CTS5759-, CTS5841-, M2046-, CTS6112-, CTS6202-, CTS6228-, CTS6280-, S18805-, CTS6401-, F2309-, PR5980-, PR2298-, M6203-, S19013-, S19028-, M3712+, PF2699+, S27357-, S2360-, S5877-, CTS7145-, PF7084-, CTS7190-, CTS7266-, S1533-, S19741-, Z6400-, A185-, Z3744-, M4522-, PF2445-, CTS7761-, S20288-, CTS8172-, FGC1849-, Y2139-, CTS8234-, S4415-, PR2697-, PR2698-, CTS8435-, YSC0000924-, CTS8653-, Z6002-, M4406-, F3978-, CTS8707-, CTS8909-, M6-, F691-, F2898-, M7157-, Z3407-, CTS9842-, M8456-, Z12931-, M4638-, M4639-, CTS10026-, M3575-, PF3037-, PF7288-, PR3097-, PR3098-, Z117-, PR3099-, PR6451-, M8460-, S22288-, M10166-, M7035-, F3125-, M7358-, YSC0000215-, YSC0000216-, S22673-, F3157-, YSC0001046-, S22929-, PF5046-, Z3639-, PF4051-, M6286-, M10566-, M6003-, PR6608-, K364-, PR6654-, M5786+, PF1061+, Z2852-, M14-, PR3457-, PR6770-, PR6771-, M282-, M112-, L290-, M7067-, M5320-, Z1200-, PF2189-, FGC11555-, S24360-, Z15050-, PF2084-, F3321-, M8170-, M3049-, PR3775-, L1403-, M7167-, CTS10852-, PF1219-, CTS11115-, M5554-, PF1879-, S5697-, CTS11652-, M8490-, M4415-, M11841+, M8518-, F3443-, Z12272-, Z563-, M6826-, PF2252-, F704-, PF7220-, S8269-, CTS12078-, CTS12638-, M4955-, M6837-, L1164-, S27766-, S27769+, Z900-, S3131-, S3136-, M8061-, CTS368-, S9511-, L656-, L831-, L950-, L337-, M5387-, PF1509-, L368-, Z5866-, M952-, CTS673-, CTS839-, CTS871-, M4726-, Z585-, Z6149-, CTS1130-, Z16017-, CTS1241-, S3562-, M11071-, M10615-, Z13889-, CTS1361-, CTS1373-, PF2106-, BY144-, FGC17829-, S27834-, Z4523-, Z1300-, S10681-, S10714-, S10715-, PF5708-, PR4798-, PR4799-, PR4800-, PR4801-, YSC0000478-, M7242-, Z5892-, M4547-, F113-, M6368-, F1150-, Z14017-, F1224-, PF7563-, Z13494-, F1389-, M10629-, M1811-, M9643-, M7260-, M6601-, Z11980+

[Lucas]

Screening results bla bla bla

Why there are deviating strongly in Germanic direction?

Polish early medieval Niemcza_18


K36

East_Central_Euro 27.22
Fennoscandian 11.50
North_Sea 61.28

K13


# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 43.07
2 Baltic 37.2
3 West_Asian 12.73
4 West_Med 7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 9.25
2 Swedish 10.12
3 North_German 11.69
4 Norwegian 12.47
5 East_German 12.49
6 Southwest_Finnish 12.74
7 Danish 13.54
8 North_Dutch 13.73
9 Austrian 13.75
10 South_Polish 14.36
11 Polish 15.38
12 Hungarian 15.39
13 Orcadian 16.05
14 Irish 16.05
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.56
16 Finnish 16.78
17 Ukrainian 17
18 West_Scottish 17.13
19 West_German 17.37
20 Southeast_English 17.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62% Norwegian + 38% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.56
2 69.4% Swedish + 30.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.67
3 87.5% North_Swedish + 12.5% Tabassaran @ 6.76
4 88.3% North_Swedish + 11.7% Lezgin @ 6.9
5 88.3% North_Swedish + 11.7% Chechen @ 6.94
6 61.6% Norwegian + 38.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.08
7 69.3% Norwegian + 30.7% Erzya @ 7.11
8 69.6% Swedish + 30.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 7.15
9 76.4% Swedish + 23.6% Erzya @ 7.15
10 65.7% Norwegian + 34.3% Lithuanian @ 7.19

[Lucas]

MDLP K16 2xOracle and OracleX4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Steppe 46.19
2 NorthEastEuropean 25.08
3 Neolithic 20.57
4 Australian 6.41
5 NorthAfrican 1.75


Finished reading population data. 516 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scottish @ 26.696640
2 Orcadian @ 27.003283
3 Icelandic @ 27.353228
4 Norwegian @ 28.094990
5 English @ 29.020193
6 Irish @ 29.402094
7 Irish @ 29.751617
8 English @ 29.842907
9 Finn @ 29.861221
10 Irish @ 29.924801
11 Irish @ 30.360128
12 Irish @ 30.384768
13 Scottish @ 30.563187
14 Shetlandic @ 30.585062
15 Finn @ 30.607479
16 Scottish @ 31.031134
17 English @ 31.037632
18 Swede @ 31.091612
19 Finn @ 31.255295
20 Irish @ 31.405285

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Scottish +50% Scottish @ 26.696640


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Tubalar @ 24.852737

[Lucas]

UHU! Kowalewsko_22 - gedmatch: M070872
has modern (for NW-Euro) North Sea level, but highly elevatede North Atlantic...



Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 1.34
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 9.81
Fennoscandian 18.56
French 8.09
Iberian -
Indo-Chinese -
Italian -
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 39.88
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 22.31
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -


Admix4

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 27,655925
2 Norway @ 28,813228
3 Orcadian @ 29,614338
4 Welsh @ 29,645478
5 SW-England @ 29,867943
6 Denmark @ 29,890969
7 Sweden_north @ 30,074334
8 Scotland @ 30,099546
9 Ireland @ 30,230072
10 Sweden @ 30,349433
11 Central_Dutch @ 30,792834
12 NW-England @ 30,931512
13 Northern_Ireland @ 31,012275
14 British_mixed @ 31,218749
15 South_Dutch @ 31,879945
16 Norway_north @ 31,976506
17 NE-England @ 32,224747
18 German_North @ 32,531671
19 SE_England @ 33,587724
20 England_Cumberland @ 33,587724
336 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 North_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 27,655925
2 North_Dutch+Norway @ 27,995378
3 North_Dutch+Sweden_north @ 28,032919
4 Sweden_north+SW-England @ 28,043059
5 North_Dutch+SW-England @ 28,160275
6 North_Dutch+Orcadian @ 28,244851
7 Norway_north+SW-England @ 28,247294
8 Sweden_north+Welsh @ 28,253404
9 North_Dutch+Norway_north @ 28,283082
10 Norway_north+Welsh @ 28,297895
11 North_Dutch+Welsh @ 28,304312
12 Ireland+Sweden_north @ 28,380195
13 Orcadian+Sweden_north @ 28,380271
14 Ireland+Norway_north @ 28,403916
15 North_Dutch+Ireland @ 28,406594
16 Orcadian+Norway_north @ 28,44374
17 Scotland+Sweden_north @ 28,520259
18 Norway+SW-England @ 28,564948
19 North_Dutch+Scotland @ 28,576284
20 Scotland+Norway_north @ 28,584733
56616 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +25% Norway_north +25% SW-England @ 27,506735
2 50% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Norway_north @ 27,549161
3 50% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north +25% SW-England @ 27,594495
4 50% North_Dutch +25% Norway_north +25% Welsh @ 27,62349
5 50% North_Dutch +25% Ireland +25% Norway_north @ 27,623993
6 50% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north @ 27,625062
7 50% North_Dutch +25% Orcadian +25% Norway_north @ 27,63468
8 50% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% SW-England @ 27,749917
9 50% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north +25% Welsh @ 27,751361
10 50% North_Dutch +25% Ireland +25% Sweden_north @ 27,757126
11 50% North_Dutch +25% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north @ 27,757588
12 50% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Norway @ 27,764175
13 50% North_Dutch +25% Scotland +25% Norway_north @ 27,775532
14 50% SW-England +25% North_Dutch +25% Norway_north @ 27,785251
15 50% North_Dutch +25% Northern_Ireland +25% Norway_north @ 27,842575
16 50% North_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Orcadian @ 27,848185
17 50% North_Dutch +25% Norway +25% SW-England @ 27,876033
18 50% Sweden_north +25% North_Dutch +25% SW-England @ 27,879403
19 50% SW-England +25% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north @ 27,883755
20 50% Welsh +25% North_Dutch +25% Norway_north @ 27,883997
18966360 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,506735
2 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway_north @ 27,549161
3 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Sweden_north+SW-England @ 27,594495
4 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway_north+Welsh @ 27,62349
5 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Ireland+Norway_north @ 27,623993
6 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Sweden_north @ 27,625062
7 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Orcadian+Norway_north @ 27,63468
8 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 27,655925
9 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+SW-England @ 27,749917
10 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Sweden_north+Welsh @ 27,751361
11 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Ireland+Sweden_north @ 27,757126
12 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Orcadian+Sweden_north @ 27,757588
13 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway @ 27,764175
14 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Scotland+Norway_north @ 27,775532
15 North_Dutch+Norway_north+SW-England+SW-England @ 27,785251
16 North_Dutch+Norway_north+SW-England+Welsh @ 27,792914
17 North_Dutch+Orcadian+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,822129
18 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+Norway_no rth @ 27,842575
19 North_Dutch+Ireland+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,846906
20 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Orcadian @ 27,848185
21 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway+SW-England @ 27,876033
22 North_Dutch+Sweden_north+Sweden_north+SW-England @ 27,879403
23 North_Dutch+Norway+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,879605
24 North_Dutch+Sweden_north+SW-England+SW-England @ 27,883755
25 North_Dutch+Norway_north+Welsh+Welsh @ 27,883997
26 North_Dutch+Orcadian+Norway_north+Welsh @ 27,888388
27 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Ireland @ 27,888843
28 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Welsh @ 27,889292
29 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Scotland+Sweden_north @ 27,897483
30 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway+Norway_north @ 27,903264
31 North_Dutch+Norway+Sweden_north+SW-England @ 27,918279
32 North_Dutch+Ireland+Norway_north+Welsh @ 27,922621
33 North_Dutch+Orcadian+Orcadian+Norway_north @ 27,928011
34 North_Dutch+Sweden_north+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,929837
35 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway+Sweden_north @ 27,930308
36 North_Dutch+Sweden_north+SW-England+Welsh @ 27,93161
37 North_Dutch+Ireland+Orcadian+Norway_north @ 27,94285
38 North_Dutch+Scotland+Norway_north+SW-England @ 27,950983
39 North_Dutch+Orcadian+Sweden_north+SW-England @ 27,955804
40 North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+Sweden_no rth @ 27,972196
540597876 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 4,863416
2 SW-England @ 4,86513
3 Scotland @ 4,969022
4 NW-England @ 4,995873
5 North_Dutch @ 5,005213
6 British_mixed @ 5,027676
7 Welsh @ 5,030933
8 Sweden_north @ 5,118627
9 Denmark @ 5,174775
10 Norway @ 5,196041
11 Sweden @ 5,269963
12 Ireland @ 5,291797
13 Northern_Ireland @ 5,395219
14 Central_Dutch @ 5,422677
15 NE-England @ 5,444777
16 Norway_north @ 5,489736
17 SE_England @ 5,491249
18 England_Cumberland @ 5,491249
19 German_North @ 5,674797
20 South_Dutch @ 5,79018
336 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Sweden_north+SW-England @ 4,85129
2 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 4,863416
3 SW-England+SW-England @ 4,86513
4 Orcadian+Sweden_north @ 4,870419
5 Orcadian+SW-England @ 4,873796
6 North_Dutch+Orcadian @ 4,909283
7 Orcadian+Scotland @ 4,919077
8 Scotland+Sweden_north @ 4,920081
9 Orcadian+NW-England @ 4,922193
10 North_Dutch+SW-England @ 4,922883
11 Sweden_north+Welsh @ 4,923406
12 Scotland+SW-England @ 4,930287
13 NW-England+SW-England @ 4,937784
14 Orcadian+British_mixed @ 4,943086
15 Orcadian+Welsh @ 4,948505
16 Sweden_north+NW-England @ 4,948792
17 British_mixed+SW-England @ 4,957577
18 British_mixed+Sweden_north @ 4,957731
19 North_Dutch+Scotland @ 4,965123
20 Scotland+Scotland @ 4,969022
56616 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SW-England +25% Sweden_north +25% SW-England @ 4,808165
2 50% SW-England +25% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north @ 4,81638
3 50% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north +25% SW-England @ 4,821272
4 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north @ 4,8226
5 50% SW-England +25% Scotland +25% Sweden_north @ 4,842751
6 50% Orcadian +25% Scotland +25% Sweden_north @ 4,848789
7 50% Sweden_north +25% SW-England +25% SW-England @ 4,85129
8 50% SW-England +25% Sweden_north +25% NW-England @ 4,851621
9 50% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north +25% NW-England @ 4,856679
10 50% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north +25% Welsh @ 4,85675
11 50% SW-England +25% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north @ 4,857031
12 50% SW-England +25% British_mixed +25% Sweden_north @ 4,857958
13 50% SW-England +25% Sweden_north +25% Welsh @ 4,858661
14 50% Sweden_north +25% Orcadian +25% SW-England @ 4,862326
15 50% Orcadian +25% British_mixed +25% Sweden_north @ 4,862857
16 50% Orcadian +25% North_Dutch +25% Sweden_north @ 4,863774
17 50% Orcadian +25% Sweden_north +25% Sweden_north @ 4,870419
18 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% SW-England @ 4,87123
19 50% Scotland +25% Sweden_north +25% SW-England @ 4,871641

nMonte

restricted

North_Dutch 73.7
Norway_north 17.1
SW-England 9.3

full

North_Dutch 62.05
Norway_north 16.50
SW-England 14.90
Sweden_north 2.30
Orcadian 1.55
Welsh 1.30
Saami_NO 0.75
Ireland 0.50
Finnish_East 0.10
Norway 0.05

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
North_Dutch Norway Orcadian Welsh Denmark SW-England
27.65194 28.80966 29.55972 29.63288 29.88754 29.97192
Sweden_north Ireland
30.07082 30.24847

[Pahli]

UHU! Kowalewsko_22 - gedmatch: M070872

Lol is it broken or did you upload the wrong gedmatch number? The calculators I put it in gives out like 80 - 85% NE_European or similar which is kinda extreme.

MDLP World 22:

Kit M070872

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 73.49
2 North-European-Mesolithic 15.61
3 East-South-Asian 7.24
4 Indo-Iranian 1.84
5 Mesoamerican 1.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian (derived) 15.16
2 Vepsa (derived) 15.56
3 Russian_North (derived) 16.85
4 Latvian (derived) 17.2
5 Moldavian (derived) 17.71

PuntDNAL K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 82.23
2 SW_Europe 16.68
3 Siberia 1.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Finnish 14.26
2 Latvian 14.54
3 Lithuanian 15.13
4 Estonian 16.64
5 Polish 20.09