Ancient Egyptians on GEDmatch

[Peterski]

Do they differ a lot from modern day Egyptians?

Modern Egyptians have more of Sub-Saharan admixture compared to those ancients.

[Wadaad]

That doesn't sound to realistic. Horners are suposed to be almost like half-Arab/semitic , and if ancient Egyptians were Levantine like they are expected to be closer to them, no?
I'm bit consfuesd about these results.

forget the Horners...that they are closer to Levantines than Berbers (and the only North Africans they do closely share are North African JEWS) makes even less sense. It is clear to me, factoring the period used aswell, that these were Assyro-Hyksoid Egyptians, which are as native as Libyo-Egyptians and Cushitic-Egyptians...

[RN97]

That doesn't sound to realistic. Horners are suposed to be almost like half-Arab/semitic , and if ancient Egyptians were Levantine like they are expected to be closer to them, no?
I'm bit consfuesd about these results.

But Croats are also like ~32 "arab/ semitic", basically basal. The rest is WHG and ANE, closer to basal than SSA. Makes perfect sense. To make it clear, neither are close to them, but they're around equally close.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Plots much norther than modern Egyptians.

[Jana]

But Croats are also like ~32 "arab/ semitic", basically basal. The rest is WHG and ANE, closer to basal than SSA. Makes perfect sense. To make it clear, neither are close to them, but they're around equally close.

European neolithic/med ancestry isn't the same to what Arabs have, their neolithic is more Caucasian related, while ours is Sardinian.

[JMack]

European neolitihc/med ancestry isn't the same to what Arabs have, their neolithic is more Caucasian related, while ours is Sardinian.

I'm not an expert, but I think what you're saying is not true. It's the same component, but in different proportions. You're saying this just because you don't want to share ~30% of your ancestry with arabs/semites. But the fact is that all West Eurasian populations are related one way or another. TA members... lol

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Ancient Egyptian (SPA) Autosomal Map (Eurogenes k36)

[Jana]

I'm not an expert, but I think what you're saying is not true. It's the same component, but in different proportions. You're saying this just because you don't want to share ~30% of your ancestry with arabs/semites. But the fact is that all West Eurasian populations are related one way or another. TA members... lol

If you aren't expert, than better stay quiet. No, it isn't the same. In MDLP K16 modern (newest calculator), there is neolithic component (peaks in Basques/Sardinian) and that is what most Europeans have, while it is very low in middle east. Another basal-ralated component is ''Caucasian'' which is very high in Arabs and Levantines (togheder with near eastern), with is basal + ANE.

Neolithic (as European neolithic like Stuttgart individual) is not strong in MENA, while Caucasian is (and in Europe it is strongest only in south-eastern Europe).

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 87.19
2 SSA 10.29
3 E_Eurasian 2.53


Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Jordanian @ 0.777173
2 Syrian @ 1.273583
3 Palestinian @ 1.440177
4 Saudi @ 2.703868
5 Yemenite_Jew @ 2.821716
6 Lebanese @ 3.023229
7 BedouinA @ 6.265167
8 Iraqi_Jew @ 9.205273
9 Kurd_C @ 9.303138
10 Iranian_Jew @ 9.730585
11 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 9.944489
12 Iranian @ 10.201332
13 Assyrian @ 10.221062
14 Georgian_Jew @ 10.311737
15 Kurd_N @ 10.383951
16 Sicilian @ 11.052952
17 Cypriot @ 11.069139
18 Armenian @ 11.245674
19 Abkhasian @ 12.216263
20 Turkish @ 12.269330

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% English +50% Yemen @ 0.000000
2 50% French +50% Yemen @ 0.000000
3 50% Palestinian +50% Syrian @ 0.400284
4 50% Albanian +50% Yemen @ 0.514093
5 50% French_South +50% Yemen @ 0.559663
6 50% Croatian +50% Yemen @ 0.574977
7 50% Jordanian +50% Syrian @ 0.611787
8 50% Czech +50% Yemen @ 0.615567
9 50% Jordanian +50% Palestinian @ 0.658267
10 50% Bergamo +50% Yemen @ 0.697884
11 50% Greek +50% Yemen @ 0.713662
12 50% Jordanian +50% Jordanian @ 0.777173
13 50% Norwegian +50% Yemen @ 0.790550
14 50% Jordanian +50% Saudi @ 0.999853
15 50% Jordanian +50% Yemenite_Jew @ 1.104780
16 50% LBK_EN +50% Yemen @ 1.134636
17 50% Bulgarian +50% Yemen @ 1.143629
18 50% Sardinian +50% Yemen @ 1.151326
19 50% Jordanian +50% Lebanese @ 1.164294
20 50% Hungarian +50% Yemen @ 1.257390


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Assyrian +25% BedouinA +25% Yemen @ 0.000000

[Pahli]

If you aren't expert, than better stay quiet. No, it isn't the same. In MDLP K16 modern (newest calculator), there is neolithic component (peaks in Basques/Sardinian) and that is what most Europeans have, while it is very low in middle east. Another basal-ralated component is ''Caucasian'' which is very high in Arabs and Levantines (togheder with near eastern), with is basal + ANE.

Neolithic (as European neolithic like Stuttgart individual) is not strong in MENA, while Caucasian is (and in Europe it is strongest only in south-eastern Europe).

Caucasian is not really that basal (its 50% ANE), Near Eastern / Natufian however is very basal in comparison (Around 80% compared to 45 - 50% in Caucasian). Anatolian_NF can be found at reasonable amounts in the Middle East (haven't seen it peak over 30% tho) while Caucasian is mostly frequent among upper West Asian countries.

This is CHG / Caucasian:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 48.8
2 Natufian 41.89
3 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 6.95
4 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 1.65
5 Sub_Saharan 0.71

This is Natufian / Near Eastern:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 93.81
2 Sub_Saharan 3.73
3 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 2.46

And last but not least, Anatolian farmer:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Natufian 60.46
2 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 36.29
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 1.79
4 Sub_Saharan 0.79
5 East_Asian 0.67