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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    Looks caucasoid and wood does that m8. Originally it wasn't that dark. They did have some SSA admixture so it's not such a weird look
    Imagine her with lighter skin, looks like:
    This is a wooden bust King Tut's mother, Thuya:



    But this is Thuya's mummy, big difference in appearance:


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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    So the Egyptians of today are white or what are you trying to say? You're proving nothing. Look at how minoas depicted themselves:


    Euro-centric would be to claim them to be..... European, not middle eastern/ north African.
    According to the Shuenemann et al. 2017 study, the Ancient Egyptian results clustered with Bedouins and their DNA percentages were closer to modern Bedouins of the Arabian peninsula. See how dark they are:




    And according to the same study, ancient Levantines had much less SSA than today, which means they would have looked more like this Syrian:



    Which would explain what we are seeing here:


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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Mummy JK2911. EDIT: After upload 13473 SNPs used in this evaluation, before 3933

    gedmatch: M558272


    K36 Eurogenes

    Amerindian -
    Arabian 25.34
    Armenian 7.67
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 7.89
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 7.31
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 24.63
    North_African 11.14
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 16.02



    Admix4



    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Samaritan @ 4,862118
    2 Egypt @ 5,70625
    3 Sephardi_Jews @ 5,856262
    4 Palestina @ 6,728861
    5 Tunisia @ 6,747312
    6 Malta @ 7,000783
    7 Bedouin_ISR @ 7,1854
    8 Levant @ 7,20648
    9 Sicily_Agrigento @ 7,414331
    10 Askhenazi @ 7,708526
    11 Sicily_Messina @ 7,719597
    12 IT_Calabria @ 7,771685
    13 Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 7,859668
    14 Sicily_Palermo @ 7,887589
    15 Jordan @ 7,952125
    16 Algeria @ 8,049264
    17 Sicily_Catania @ 8,064679
    18 Sicily_Ragusa @ 8,100647
    19 Sicily_Trapani @ 8,20352
    20 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 8,597384
    335 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Samaritan+Samaritan @ 4,862118
    2 Egypt+Samaritan @ 5,14358
    3 Morocco+Samaritan @ 5,145731
    4 Algeria+Samaritan @ 5,147473
    5 Tunisia+Samaritan @ 5,315797
    6 Samaritan+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,321673
    7 Bedouin_ISR+IT_Sardinia @ 5,335311
    8 Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan @ 5,439999
    9 Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 5,476727
    10 Egypt+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,633176
    11 Egypt+IT_Sardinia @ 5,636746
    12 Bedouin_ISR+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,65995
    13 Egypt+Egypt @ 5,70625
    14 Samaritan+Malta @ 5,766277
    15 Palestina+Samaritan @ 5,788467
    16 Tunisia+Bedouin_ISR @ 5,813849
    17 Egypt+Cyprus @ 5,822911
    18 Saudi+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,824898
    19 Tunisia+Egypt @ 5,826633
    20 Sephardi_Jews+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,856262
    56280 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,677269
    2 50% Samaritan +25% Bedouin_ISR +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,685525
    3 50% Samaritan +25% Saudi +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,686194
    4 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Samaritan @ 4,755966
    5 50% Samaritan +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,763263
    6 50% Samaritan +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,79105
    7 50% Samaritan +25% Yemen_North +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,798104
    8 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Samaritan @ 4,800263
    9 50% Egypt +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,822055
    10 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,834159
    11 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Bedouin_ISR +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,835662
    12 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,849463
    13 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,864693
    14 50% Egypt +25% Bedouin_ISR +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,871958
    15 50% Egypt +25% Saudi +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,876505
    16 50% Samaritan +25% Tunisia +25% Samaritan @ 4,937727
    17 50% Egypt +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,946942
    18 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Saudi @ 4,949382
    19 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Palestina +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,951394


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Bedouin_ISR @ 22,063903
    2 Palestina @ 25,524996
    3 Samaritan @ 25,593697
    4 Jordan @ 25,816927
    5 Egypt @ 27,051776
    6 Sephardi_Jews @ 27,299826
    7 Levant @ 27,720095
    8 Yemen_North @ 30,013924
    9 Iraqi_Jews @ 31,922039
    10 Askhenazi @ 32,203939
    11 Sicily_Agrigento @ 32,558477
    12 Saudi @ 32,85862
    13 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 32,976406
    14 Sicily_Messina @ 33,310237
    15 Malta @ 33,358272
    16 Cyprus @ 33,383225
    17 Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 33,443293
    18 Tunisia @ 33,620509
    19 Hadramut_Yemen @ 33,628324
    20 Azeri_Jews @ 33,658893
    335 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Tunisia+Saudi @ 19,675175
    2 Saudi+Sephardi_Jews @ 19,696622
    3 Saudi+Sicily_Agrigento @ 19,831342
    4 Saudi+Sicily_Messina @ 19,919308
    5 Saudi+Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 20,066817
    6 Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 20,152706
    7 Bedouin_ISR+Sephardi_Jews @ 20,185491
    8 Saudi+Sicily_Palermo @ 20,22237
    9 Saudi+IT_Calabria @ 20,305616
    10 Saudi+Sicily_Trapani @ 20,328046
    11 Saudi+Sicily_Ragusa @ 20,384796
    12 Saudi+Malta @ 20,443745
    13 Saudi+GR_Kythera @ 20,566068
    14 Algeria+Saudi @ 20,60174
    15 Saudi+Sicily_Catania @ 20,760649
    16 Yemen_North+Sephardi_Jews @ 20,765547
    17 Saudi+Gr_Eubea @ 20,794168
    18 Saudi+Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 20,801239
    19 Saudi+Askhenazi @ 20,890643
    20 Yemen_North+Sicily_Agrigento @ 20,989972
    56280 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Saudi +25% Palestina +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,486794
    2 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Saudi +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,608058
    3 50% Saudi +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,659999
    4 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Bedouin_ISR +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,685137
    5 50% Saudi +25% Morocco +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,712203
    6 50% Saudi +25% Algeria +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,714872
    7 50% Saudi +25% Tunisia +25% IT_Sardinia @ 16,98082
    8 50% Saudi +25% Levant +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,006622
    9 50% Saudi +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,072107
    10 50% Saudi +25% Jordan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,206803
    11 50% Saudi +25% Sephardi_Jews +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,242967
    12 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,323645
    13 50% Saudi +25% Azeri_Jews +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,365663
    14 50% Saudi +25% Iraqi_Jews +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,442341
    15 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Yemen_North +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,45408
    16 50% Saudi +25% Azeri_Igdir +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,525773
    17 50% Saudi +25% Assyrian +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,625119
    18 50% Bedouin_ISR +25% Palestina +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,708109
    19 50% Samaritan +25% Saudi +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,711884
    20 50% Yemen_North +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 17,747935
    17220368 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 16,254657
    2 Bedouin_ISR+Palestina+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,373073
    3 Palestina+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,486794
    4 Bedouin_ISR+Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,608058
    5 Saudi+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 16,659999
    6 Bedouin_ISR+Bedouin_ISR+Bedouin_ISR+IT_Sardinia @ 16,685137
    7 Morocco+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,712203
    8 Algeria+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,714872
    9 Egypt+Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,799912
    10 Bedouin_ISR+Levant+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,856446
    11 Saudi+Yemen_North+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 16,942227
    12 Tunisia+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 16,98082
    13 Levant+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,006622
    14 Palestina+Saudi+Yemen_North+IT_Sardinia @ 17,014166
    15 Egypt+Saudi+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,072107
    16 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Jordan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,103411
    17 Saudi+Hadramut_Yemen+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,195813
    18 Algeria+Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,202202
    19 Saudi+Saudi+Jordan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,206803
    20 Saudi+Saudi+Sephardi_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,242967
    21 Bedouin_ISR+Yemen_North+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,273758
    22 Egypt+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,290037
    23 Bedouin_ISR+Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,323645
    24 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Iraqi_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,332655
    25 Morocco+Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,359207
    26 Saudi+Saudi+Azeri_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,365663
    27 Algeria+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,389936
    28 Morocco+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,42322
    29 Saudi+Saudi+Iraqi_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,442341
    30 Levant+Saudi+Yemen_North+IT_Sardinia @ 17,451687
    31 Bedouin_ISR+Bedouin_ISR+Yemen_North+IT_Sardinia @ 17,45408
    32 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Sephardi_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,464672
    33 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Azeri_Jews+IT_Sardinia @ 17,483627
    34 Egypt+Palestina+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,514453
    35 Saudi+Saudi+Azeri_Igdir+IT_Sardinia @ 17,525773
    36 Palestina+Saudi+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 17,554183
    37 Tunisia+Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+IT_Sardinia @ 17,599388
    38 Bedouin_ISR+Palestina+Yemen_North+IT_Sardinia @ 17,619032
    39 Saudi+Saudi+Assyrian+IT_Sardinia @ 17,625119
    40 Bedouin_ISR+Saudi+Assyrian+IT_Sardinia @ 17,690345
    506600417 iterations.


    Why are they so close to Sicilians and Ashkenazim?? This is incredible. I am proud

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    I re-examined JK2888 in Bam Analysis Tool. After uplaoding to Gedmatch 21444 SNPs used in this evaluation


    Gedmatch: M832273


    Components % are partly different but in variability range for this region. Also no South-Asian admxiture in K36.
    21444 SNPs used in this evaluation
    before about 15000

    Amerindian -
    Arabian 13.88
    Armenian 0.39
    Basque -
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 20.46
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 6.81
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 27.52
    North_African 12.82
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African 3.78
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 14.33




    Admix4

    Gaussian method.
    Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Egypt @ 4,907064
    2 Sephardi_Jews @ 5,336773
    3 Samaritan @ 5,342269
    4 Algeria @ 5,856031
    5 Tunisia @ 6,042719
    6 Palestina @ 6,266935
    7 Morocco @ 6,393577
    8 Bedouin_ISR @ 6,810099
    9 Malta @ 6,820614
    10 Levant @ 6,902569
    11 Sicily_Catania @ 7,386835
    12 Jordan @ 7,409304
    13 Sicily_Messina @ 7,412027
    14 Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 7,445422
    15 Sicily_Palermo @ 7,452093
    16 Askhenazi @ 7,61263
    17 Sicily_Trapani @ 7,874425
    18 Sicily_Ragusa @ 7,91453
    19 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 8,037345
    20 IT_Calabria @ 8,398938
    335 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Morocco+Samaritan @ 4,514727
    2 Algeria+Samaritan @ 4,527507
    3 Egypt+Samaritan @ 4,605904
    4 Tunisia+Samaritan @ 4,70064
    5 Egypt+IT_Sardinia @ 4,802466
    6 Egypt+Egypt @ 4,907064
    7 Morocco+Egypt @ 4,927187
    8 Algeria+Egypt @ 4,928075
    9 Tunisia+Egypt @ 5,041619
    10 Samaritan+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,044601
    11 Egypt+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,072185
    12 Bedouin_ISR+IT_Sardinia @ 5,225688
    13 Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan @ 5,251938
    14 Egypt+Cyprus @ 5,257183
    15 Algeria+Cyprus @ 5,265135
    16 Morocco+Levant @ 5,302067
    17 Morocco+Cyprus @ 5,320951
    18 Sephardi_Jews+Sephardi_Jews @ 5,336773
    19 Algeria+Levant @ 5,339718
    20 Samaritan+Samaritan @ 5,342269
    56280 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Egypt +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,171971
    2 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Samaritan @ 4,175061
    3 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Samaritan @ 4,255653
    4 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,276227
    5 50% Egypt +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,285088
    6 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,300514
    7 50% Egypt +25% Algeria +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,363167
    8 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Egypt @ 4,376041
    9 50% Egypt +25% Bedouin_ISR +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,376896
    10 50% Egypt +25% Morocco +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,379828
    11 50% Egypt +25% Yemen_North +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,414636
    12 50% Samaritan +25% Tunisia +25% Samaritan @ 4,422101
    13 50% Samaritan +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,422697
    14 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Egypt @ 4,436579
    15 50% Egypt +25% Saudi +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,44852
    16 50% Samaritan +25% Tunisia +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,461962
    17 50% Egypt +25% Tunisia +25% IT_Sardinia @ 4,513326
    18 50% Morocco +25% Samaritan +25% Samaritan @ 4,514727
    19 50% Algeria +25% Samaritan +25% Samaritan @ 4,527507
    20 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Algeria @ 4,


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Samaritan @ 18,031746
    2 Egypt @ 18,115818
    3 Palestina @ 18,220403
    4 Levant @ 19,891915
    5 Jordan @ 20,09245
    6 Sephardi_Jews @ 21,540407
    7 Bedouin_ISR @ 24,805273
    8 Cyprus @ 25,321272
    9 Iraqi_Jews @ 25,818346
    10 Askhenazi @ 28,179415
    11 Sicily_Messina @ 28,38335
    12 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 28,509079
    13 Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 29,064235
    14 Sicily_Agrigento @ 29,259619
    15 Malta @ 29,379237
    16 Assyrian @ 29,505519
    17 Azeri_Jews @ 29,523382
    18 Sicily_Ragusa @ 29,620723
    19 GR_Crete @ 29,935456
    20 GR_Ikaria @ 29,942587
    335 iterations.

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 Egypt+Samaritan @ 15,696941
    2 Egypt+Sephardi_Jews @ 15,74216
    3 Algeria+Samaritan @ 15,88781
    4 Tunisia+Samaritan @ 16,328047
    5 Egypt+Palestina @ 16,682488
    6 Morocco+Samaritan @ 16,786366
    7 Egypt+Levant @ 16,976988
    8 Egypt+Cyprus @ 17,076208
    9 Samaritan+Jordan @ 17,37582
    10 Palestina+Samaritan @ 17,423164
    11 Egypt+Sicily_Messina @ 17,426492
    12 Samaritan+Sephardi_Jews @ 17,431617
    13 Egypt+Jordan @ 17,724027
    14 Egypt+Sicily_Agrigento @ 17,7641
    15 Egypt+Malta @ 17,789563
    16 Egypt+Sicily_Caltanisetta @ 17,802039
    17 Egypt+Sicily_Ragusa @ 17,899149
    18 Algeria+Levant @ 17,909653
    19 Egypt+Sicily_Catania @ 18,029681
    20 Samaritan+Samaritan @ 18,031746
    56280 iterations.

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Egypt @ 13,149514
    2 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Samaritan @ 13,18788
    3 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Egypt @ 13,286779
    4 50% Egypt +25% Samaritan +25% IT_Sardinia @ 13,523335
    5 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Samaritan @ 13,599866
    6 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Palestina @ 13,763246
    7 50% Samaritan +25% Tunisia +25% Egypt @ 13,784989
    8 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Levant @ 13,964886
    9 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Palestina @ 14,017811
    10 50% Egypt +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 14,187574
    11 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Bedouin_ISR @ 14,214923
    12 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Levant @ 14,294518
    13 50% Samaritan +25% Egypt +25% IT_Sardinia @ 14,304148
    14 50% Samaritan +25% Morocco +25% Jordan @ 14,30561
    15 50% Egypt +25% Palestina +25% IT_Sardinia @ 14,381618
    16 50% Egypt +25% Levant +25% IT_Sardinia @ 14,430723
    17 50% Egypt +25% Algeria +25% Samaritan @ 14,431054
    18 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Bedouin_ISR @ 14,451042
    19 50% Samaritan +25% Tunisia +25% Samaritan @ 14,452236
    20 50% Samaritan +25% Algeria +25% Jordan @ 14,480713
    16194298 iterations.

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Morocco+Egypt+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,149514
    2 Morocco+Samaritan+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,18788
    3 Algeria+Egypt+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,286779
    4 Egypt+Egypt+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 13,523335
    5 Algeria+Samaritan+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,599866
    6 Morocco+Palestina+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,763246
    7 Tunisia+Egypt+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,784989
    8 Morocco+Levant+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 13,964886
    9 Algeria+Palestina+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,017811
    10 Morocco+Egypt+Levant+Samaritan @ 14,103468
    11 Algeria+Egypt+Levant+Samaritan @ 14,170942
    12 Egypt+Egypt+Egypt+IT_Sardinia @ 14,187574
    13 Algeria+Egypt+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,193425
    14 Morocco+Egypt+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,205234
    15 Morocco+Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,214923
    16 Algeria+Levant+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,294518
    17 Egypt+Samaritan+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 14,304148
    18 Morocco+Samaritan+Samaritan+Jordan @ 14,30561
    19 Egypt+Egypt+Palestina+IT_Sardinia @ 14,381618
    20 Egypt+Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 14,424142
    21 Egypt+Egypt+Levant+IT_Sardinia @ 14,430723
    22 Algeria+Egypt+Egypt+Samaritan @ 14,431054
    23 Algeria+Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,451042
    24 Tunisia+Samaritan+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,452236
    25 Algeria+Samaritan+Samaritan+Jordan @ 14,480713
    26 Morocco+Egypt+Samaritan+Cyprus @ 14,493459
    27 Algeria+Egypt+Samaritan+Cyprus @ 14,51979
    28 Tunisia+Egypt+Egypt+Samaritan @ 14,536829
    29 Morocco+Egypt+Egypt+Samaritan @ 14,561386
    30 Tunisia+Egypt+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,615045
    31 Egypt+Palestina+Samaritan+IT_Sardinia @ 14,669247
    32 Tunisia+Egypt+Levant+Samaritan @ 14,692764
    33 Morocco+Palestina+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,74558
    34 Morocco+Levant+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,777952
    35 Tunisia+Palestina+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,800965
    36 Egypt+Egypt+Bedouin_ISR+IT_Sardinia @ 14,802583
    37 Morocco+Samaritan+Samaritan+Cyprus @ 14,814722
    38 Tunisia+Bedouin_ISR+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 14,849468
    39 Algeria+Palestina+Palestina+Samaritan @ 14,850592
    40 Morocco+Samaritan+Samaritan+Sephardi_Jews @ 14,853247
    471441340 iterations.


    Same here. My guess is one of the native populations of the region must have had some links to North Africa and Egypt.. maybe Sicanians.

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    Which would explain what we are seeing here:

    Libya was a Greek colony for 800 years and even before the foundation of Tripolis by the Greeks the land is recorded to have had a white European-Levantine population by the Egyptians. For example Septimus Severus was born to an Italian Roman mother and a Punic, ie. Phoenician father in Libya.

    Northern Africa was never black at any time in recorded history. The population was European-Levantine since recorded history began and before recorded history Berber, and the Brebers where of white Arab appearance.

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    First look at ancient Egyptian mtDNA:

    http://mtdnaatlas.blogspot.com/2017/...ian-mtdna.html

    Thanks to Schuenemann 2017 we finally have DNA from the ancient Egyptians. It sequenced three ancient Egyptian genomes and 90 ancient Egyptian mtDNA genomes. All of the samples come from Middle Egypt and range in age from about 1300 BC to 300 AD.

    The genetic affinity of the ancient Egyptians doesn’t carry any surprises. They were native to the Middle East. With published ancient DNA we can trace their roots back 12,000 years to that region. But unlike other ancient Middle Eastern DNA, the ancient Egyptians also harbored a little bit of some sort of Sub Saharan African ancestry(5-10%).

    I’ve taken a close look at the ancient Egyptian mtDNA results. So here’s a first glimpse into the mtDNA affinity of the ancient Egyptians…..

    Like their genome-wide affinity the ancient Egyptian’s mtDNA is distinctively Near Eastern. Not just Middle Eastern but Near Eastern. Recall earlier this year I pointed out that modern Egyptian mtDNA shows affinity to the Near East not NorthWest Africa. They share most mtDNA first with modern Egyptians but then also Arabians and peoples in the Levant(Syria, Lebanon, etc). A mere 1%(1 sample) belonged to Sub Saharan African mHG L(xM, N). Modern Egypt though has a frequency of 20% frequency!

    A handful of mHGs characterized ancient Egyptian mtDNA. 44% belonged to the following mHGs: R0a 7.8%, HV1 6.7%, J2a2 6.7%, T1a 14.4%, M1a 5.6%, I 4.4%.

    Every single one of those mHGs is specific to the Near East-North Africa except for U6a and M1a which make a significant presence Iberia and many parts of Africa.

    Today R0a, HV1, and J2a2 interesting all peak in Egypt. And the ancient Egyptians had as high of a frequency in those mHGs as you’ll find in any modern population. Their high frequency of J2a2(6.7%) is even more interesting considering it has been found in the Natufians. J2a2 seldom appears outside of the SouthWest Asia-North Africa. Last year I classified it Near Easter(See here). J in Europe is dominated by J1c while J1b-J1d dominates J in much of the Middle East.

    R0a has a more international distribution than J2a2 and HV1. Like J2a2 it peaks in the Near East but it also surprisingly has a strong presence as far east as India. Several examples R0a have been found in Neolithic and Bronze age Jordan.

    Saying the ancient Egyptians had a lot of T1a doesn’t say much considering T1a is equally popular in most of West Eurasia(from Ireland to Iran). The T1a clades the ancient Egyptians belonged to: T1a7, T1a2, T1a5, T1a8, all are Near Eastern-specific. None of them belonged to European-SC Asian T1a1. Most of my modern T1a7 samples are from Egypt. All of my Egyptian T1a7 samples belong to an unclassified T1a7 clade, it’ll be interesting to see if these ancient Egyptians belonged to that clade.

    Here’s the most important differences between ancient Egyptian mtDNA and modern Egyptian+Near Eastern mtDNA: moderns have a lot more J1b, H, U3, and African L(xM, N).
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