Ancient Egyptians on GEDmatch

[Kamal900]

No they weren't. Check you own source:

Yes, they were Egyptians despite that they were Romanized culture with a mixture of Greek and Egyptian cultures.

[Kamal900]

Looks mixed with black. Maybe quadroon - mullata of east SSA mixture
the skin is just light skinned

Stop being so delusional. She looks very Egyptian Caucasoid.

[Smeagol]

Yes, they were Egyptians despite that they were Romanized culture with a mixture of Greek and Egyptian cultures.

Yeah, also the dental morphology of the Fayum mummies was compared with that of earlier Egyptian populations, and was found to be "much more closely akin" to that of ancient Egyptians than to Greeks or other European populations. (Irish JD (2006). "Who were the ancient Egyptians? Dental affinities among Neolithic through postdynastic peoples.". Am J Phys Anthropol 129 (4): 529-43)

So yeah anyone claiming they were Greeks or Romans is wrong.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

No they weren't. Check you own source:

Then why are the clothes in roman and greek garbs wearing greek wreaths?

Who are the identity of these people portrayed? How do you confirm they are in fact Egyptians. And not Mixed with roman/ greeks or just roman greeks involved in some of their local customs?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Stop being so delusional. She looks very Egyptian Caucasoid.

no she doesnt. It looks mixed

this is caucasian



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[Smeagol]

Then why are the clothes in roman and greek garbs wearing greek wreaths?

Because Greek culture was spread far beyond Greece's borders even as far as India.

Who are the identity of these people portrayed? How do you confirm they are in fact Egyptians. And not Mixed with roman/ greeks or just roman greeks involved in some of their local customs?

Already posted evidence for this. Dental morphology studies for one.

[Smeagol]

no she doesnt. It looks mixed

this is caucasian



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Nope. This is Caucasian too. Zero negroid traits.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Nope. This is Caucasian too. Zero negroid traits.

Yes tamil people must be caucasians too lol. They arent. He isnt caucasian. Hes just not bantu. But hes east african mixed. Horners are mixed with ssa but they dont have bantu ancestry and their natufian ancestry generally makes them look more caucasian compared to other ssa groups. But they arent caucasians really. They are mixed and have some of their own unique genes / phenotype. Plus they have several hundred and thousand years of them selectively picking mates with certain phenotypes. Even though they are ssa mixed. But it is not caucasian you can tell by looking at it. Look at the head shape. And forehead. Look at the fulani woddabi. Are you going to tell me this fulani is caucasian too? Lol just because they are mixed and dont look like the rest of west africans? You will but many are mixed with west africans. Including these. They look more caucasian shapes than that egyptian statue

I bet you consider modern egyptians caucasoid. Lol. Even though you awknowledge their bantu ssa ancestry

[Isleño]

Uh clearly they arent egyptians. Those are greeks and romans. You are being rediculous. In fact you are giving egyptians credit where its something a greek or roman did. those potraits arent native Egyptian. Those are roman greek, the tradition and art style is like that too. None of the pre greek/roman occupation era of ancient egyptian wall paintings are done in similar manner. Use common sense man. You are better than that

Post some fayum roman pictures of them in traditional egyptian pharaonic attire. with them holding a Egyptian scepter.
but instead you find them in roman garbs and greek wreaths.

It was mentioned in the Shuenemann study that often Egyptians adopted Greco-Roman culture, as it was desired by some. I'm not saying all Fayum portraits are Egyptian, however there may be some that were indeed Egyptians. Unless we have DNA evidence linking a mummy to a portrait, it's all just speculation for any argument. I think we are straying off track speculating from busts and portraits. We should stick to DNA. As of the latest results on Egyptian mummies Shuenemann et al. 2017, the results are of Near Eastern origin. However, there is between 6%-15% SSA in these individuals, only 8% less SSA as modern Egyptians. So it seems they are very close to modern Egyptians genetically, which would hint at genetic continuity. If we understand that the oldest mummy tested was from the New Kingdom, before Greco-Roman settlement, we should realize this person was indeed an Egyptian. There is genetic continuity through the New Kingdom into the Ptolemaic and Roman periods. The Shuenemann study and team quoted there was found to be no evidence of foreign admixture in the three genome-wide mummies tested.

In fact, here is the list of all the mummies tested for mtDNA for which nearly all of them had Eurasian mtDNA, including the oldest mummy from 1388 BC, from before Greco-Roman immigrantion:

https://images.nature.com/full/natur...s15694-s1.xlsx

[Isleño]

Looks mixed with black. Maybe quadroon - mullata of east SSA mixture
the skin is just light skinned

Princess Nofret looks to me like any modern Egyptian today. I wouldn't say mulatto nor quadroon, although probably similar to the 6%-15% SSA admixed Caucasoid mummies of Abusir El Meleq, per the Shuenemann study. I'd say probably genetically similar to modern Egyptians. But again, although we've all participated in speculation from images, we should really stay away from speculation using busts and portraits, DNA is far more reliable.