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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Also for comparison - neolithic Anatolia on Gedmatch

    Z892662 Barcin 31 (neolithic Anatolia)
    Z155641 Barcin 8 (neolithic Anatolia)

    Barcin 8 has even modern relatives

    Any plans on posting other southeastern euro remains/kits? or have they not been added yet. here is me and my pops k15 with these remians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Any plans on posting other southeastern euro remains/kits? or have they not been added yet. here is me and my pops k15 with these remians

    unnamed (20).jpg
    Maybe tomorrow will be third Greek neolithic kit. I must convert first.

    But another I have. This is RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age. Little contaminated (hence few % SSA). Ignore this component. Generally looks very East-Euro for Balkans. Probably steppe related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Maybe tomorrow will be third Greek neolithic kit. I must convert first.

    But another I have. This is RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age. Little contaminated (hence few % SSA). Ignore this component. Generally looks very East-Euro for Balkans. Probably steppe related.

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    I ran him on gedmatch:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NorthEastEuropean 37.15
    2 Steppe 31.53
    3 Neolithic 24.79
    4 Siberian 3.78
    5 Amerindian 2.74

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Icelandic 15.18
    2 Finn 15.71
    3 Finn 15.84
    4 Norwegian 15.87
    5 Ingrians 16.45
    6 Finn 16.49
    7 Orcadian 16.57
    8 Finn 16.76
    9 Latvian_Dobele 16.9
    10 Scottish 17.05
    11 Finn 17.21
    12 Karelian 17.44
    13 Estonian 17.76
    14 Swede 18.12
    15 Latvian 18.25
    16 Russian 18.42
    17 Russian 18.48
    18 Vepsa 18.71
    19 Finn 19.19
    20 English 19.2

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.9% Finn + 21.1% Basque @ 13.62
    2 76.6% Latvian_Dobele + 23.4% Basque @ 14.19
    3 79% Finn + 21% Spanish @ 14.29
    4 79.3% Ingrians + 20.7% Basque @ 14.49
    5 82.6% Icelandic + 17.4% Saami_WGA @ 14.5
    6 80.1% Finn + 19.9% French @ 14.5
    7 59% Icelandic + 41% Finn @ 14.54
    8 69.8% Latvian_Cesis + 30.2% Basque @ 14.58
    9 74.7% Estonian + 25.3% Basque @ 14.61
    10 83.8% Icelandic + 16.2% Saami @ 14.62
    11 92.5% Icelandic + 7.5% Mansi @ 14.75
    12 72.9% Icelandic + 27.1% Finn @ 14.83
    13 94.6% Icelandic + 5.4% Tubalar @ 14.89
    14 77.6% Finn + 22.4% Basque @ 14.92
    15 50.4% Finn + 49.6% Norwegian @ 14.93
    16 76.7% Karelian + 23.3% Basque @ 14.93
    17 57.6% Finn + 42.4% Orcadian @ 14.94
    18 77.1% Icelandic + 22.9% Karelian @ 14.94
    19 94.9% Icelandic + 5.1% Selkup @ 14.95
    20 76.3% Latvian_Dobele + 23.7% Spanish @ 14.98

    Damn....


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    Only 10 000 snp, so not very reliable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mlukas View Post
    Maybe tomorrow will be third Greek neolithic kit. I must convert first.

    But another I have. This is RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age. Little contaminated (hence few % SSA). Ignore this component. Generally looks very East-Euro for Balkans. Probably steppe related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    I ran him on gedmatch:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NorthEastEuropean 37.15
    2 Steppe 31.53
    3 Neolithic 24.79
    4 Siberian 3.78
    5 Amerindian 2.74

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Icelandic 15.18
    2 Finn 15.71
    3 Finn 15.84
    4 Norwegian 15.87
    5 Ingrians 16.45
    6 Finn 16.49
    7 Orcadian 16.57
    8 Finn 16.76
    9 Latvian_Dobele 16.9
    10 Scottish 17.05
    11 Finn 17.21
    12 Karelian 17.44
    13 Estonian 17.76
    14 Swede 18.12
    15 Latvian 18.25
    16 Russian 18.42
    17 Russian 18.48
    18 Vepsa 18.71
    19 Finn 19.19
    20 English 19.2

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.9% Finn + 21.1% Basque @ 13.62
    2 76.6% Latvian_Dobele + 23.4% Basque @ 14.19
    3 79% Finn + 21% Spanish @ 14.29
    4 79.3% Ingrians + 20.7% Basque @ 14.49
    5 82.6% Icelandic + 17.4% Saami_WGA @ 14.5
    6 80.1% Finn + 19.9% French @ 14.5
    7 59% Icelandic + 41% Finn @ 14.54
    8 69.8% Latvian_Cesis + 30.2% Basque @ 14.58
    9 74.7% Estonian + 25.3% Basque @ 14.61
    10 83.8% Icelandic + 16.2% Saami @ 14.62
    11 92.5% Icelandic + 7.5% Mansi @ 14.75
    12 72.9% Icelandic + 27.1% Finn @ 14.83
    13 94.6% Icelandic + 5.4% Tubalar @ 14.89
    14 77.6% Finn + 22.4% Basque @ 14.92
    15 50.4% Finn + 49.6% Norwegian @ 14.93
    16 76.7% Karelian + 23.3% Basque @ 14.93
    17 57.6% Finn + 42.4% Orcadian @ 14.94
    18 77.1% Icelandic + 22.9% Karelian @ 14.94
    19 94.9% Icelandic + 5.1% Selkup @ 14.95
    20 76.3% Latvian_Dobele + 23.7% Spanish @ 14.98

    Damn....

    78% finn+28% basque is interesting.

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    He doesn't score any european neolithic farmer admixture in Eurogenes K7!

    ANE 25.10

    ASE -
    WHG-UHG 71.05

    East_Eurasian -
    West_African -
    East_African 3.85
    ENF -

    Either extremely northern invader really came to Montengero or this sample isn't the best so we should wait for more quality ones.

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    weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    He doesn't score any european neolithic farmer admixture in Eurogenes K7!

    ANE 25.10

    ASE -
    WHG-UHG 71.05

    East_Eurasian -
    West_African -
    East_African 3.85
    ENF -

    Either extremely northern invader really came to Montengero or this sample isn't the best so we should wait for more quality ones.
    Only 10 000 SNPs so that's why. They get fucked up admixtures when it's that low.

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