Eurogenes K36 Similarity Tool Map

[Wrong]

Yeah i know but i dont really have more steppe but seems same based on other calcs

Its rather more neolithic that pulls some Albanians more south, while i get more whg and less neolithic

I also get northern italian on calcs etc while some other albs here get more Tuscan.. so seems rather maybe we Albanians who get northern italy have ancestry from overall from north of the Balkans but according to them it must be from servian wives meern...

Funny thing, i match northern italy more and get that on calcs more than croatia, serbia and even Montenegro... so that peak in Montenegro is most likely from montenigrin Albanians overall

Albanians are everywhere, from Peloponnesse to North Italy. We own da place.

[RN97]

WHG does pull North-West, since Neolithic gets lowered the more WHG one scores.

That's not a given bro. In Sardinians you can claim that their WHG pulls them south since their WHG lowers their ANE. Look at where Spaniards plot in comparison to Finns. Believe it or not, they have around the same levels of WHG. Basal-rich K7 gives Finns less, but it doesn't account for the fact that Villabruna who is used as WHG in that calc. was from that region meaning higher likely-hood of shared genetic similarity + ANE contains some WHG-like stuff in it. However overall Finns and Spaniards are basically equal in terms of WHG, yet they still plot way more south and way more west. Give a Moroccan more WHG and it will pull him north, but the main difference between n. Euros and s. Euros is ANE not WHG so 1% WHG will pull a European less north than 1% ANE.

[RN97]

Yeah i know but i dont really have more steppe but seems same based on other calcs

Its rather more neolithic that pulls some Albanians more south, while i get more whg and less neolithic

I also get northern italian on calcs etc while some other albs here get more Tuscan.. so seems rather maybe we Albanians who get northern italy have ancestry from overall from north of the Balkans but according to them it must be from servian wives meern...

Funny thing, i match northern italy more and get that on calcs more than croatia, serbia and even Montenegro... so that peak in Montenegro is most likely from montenigrin Albanians overall

Actually Basque-like ancestry would make an Albanian more N. Italian like rather than Balto-slavic (say Lithuanian/ Polish) and that's due to the fact that n. Italians have very, very little steppe/ ANE. They have around only 9%. For comparison Sicilians have 10%, Albanians have 12% so if you were Serbian mixed, you'd likely be pulled more towards Montenegrins than n. Italians.

[Lek]

Actually Basque-like ancestry would make an Albanian more N. Italian like rather than Balto-slavic (say Lithuanian/ Polish) and that's due to the fact that n. Italians have very, very little steppe/ ANE. They have around only 9%. For comparison Sicilians have 10%, Albanians have 12% so if you were Serbian mixed, you'd likely be pulled more towards Montenegrins than n. Italians.

I dont match northern slavs much.. rather south slavs got a lot of balkan input

But a lot of Montenigrins have Albanian ancestry as they really did come from tribes that were Albanian such as the tribe my maternal side comes from, there are a bunch of serbs/montenigrins that belong to this tribe originally and even other tribes and carry tribal Albanian nammes with slavic suffix like Kucic from Albanian kuqi and Kastratovic from Albanian Kastrati etc, and Serbian historians claimed their founders as Slavs but genetics disproves this rather Serbs have a lot of Balkan Albanian input without a doubt which pulls many of them more south rather than us,north. even Coon called Montenigrins slavized Albanians after studying them and they spread into Serbia, Kosovo etc.

So when I get Serbian its usually Montenigrins as they are the closest south slavs to me probably.

Sometimes these calcs give me greek etc but i noticed in many that north italian comes up first but not always of course as i also match Southern balkans etc. so its usually except for Albanian, greek , montenigrin/serbian, tuscan, Northern italian, bulgarian and romanian.

I dont get much baltic or east euro , rather i get north sea which pulls me north while other Southern plotting Albanians get more east med which pulls them more south.

Im basically eastern shifted north italian

[RN97]

I dont match northern slavs much.. rather south slavs got a lot of balkan input

But a lot of Montenigrins have Albanian ancestry as they really did come from tribes that were Albanian such as the tribe my maternal side comes from, there are a bunch of serbs/montenigrins that belong to this tribe originally and even other tribes and carry tribal Albanian nammes with slavic suffix like Kucic from Albanian kuqi and Kastratovic from Albanian Kastrati etc, and Serbian historians claimed their founders as Slavs but genetics disproves this rather Serbs have a lot of Balkan Albanian input without a doubt which pulls many of them more south rather than us,north. even Coon called Montenigrins slavized Albanians after studying them and they spread into Serbia, Kosovo etc.

So when I get Serbian its usually Montenigrins as they are the closest south slavs to me probably.

Sometimes these calcs give me greek etc but i noticed in many that north italian comes up first but not always of course as i also match Southern balkans etc. so its usually except for Albanian, greek , montenigrin/serbian, tuscan, Northern italian, bulgarian and romanian.

I dont get much baltic or east euro , rather i get north sea which pulls me north while other Southern plotting Albanians get more east med which pulls them more south.

Im basically eastern shifted north italian

I don't think you understood what I meant. North Italians aren't really that north. Look at this PCA based upon the basal-rich k7 that basically splits Europeans into three ancestries.
1. Villabruna related (WHG) pulls you west and a tiny bit north
2. ANE pulls you very north and eastwards
3. basal Eurasian pulls you south

A 90% Albo and 10% Serb is basically as similar to a n. Italian as a 100% Albo. N. Italians aren't really northern. They're like Iberians with less WHG and more basal.

[Lek]

I don't think you understood what I meant. North Italians aren't really that north. Look at this PCA based upon the basal-rich k7 that basically splits Europeans into three ancestries.
1. Villabruna related (WHG) pulls you west and a tiny bit north
2. ANE pulls you very north and eastwards
3. basal Eurasian pulls you south

A 90% Albo and 10% Serb is basically as similar to a n. Italian as a 100% Albo. N. Italians aren't really northern. They're like Iberians with less WHG and more basal.

Right...

its not really north where i plot or even indicates foreign influence but they are just so butthurt i plot more Northern than them , i plot more Northern because i get more northern italy and more northern areas while others get more south but youre right its not really north.


they really think we're all gonna plot at the same spot , strong low iqs.. my results dont indicate balto slavic influence or even foreign influence, here i match northern italy more than northern slavic countries or even croatia, slovenia etc.. balkan slavs got a lot of Balkan input...

These Albanians are fucking stupid man. Theyre dumb as they fucking come. Apparently a pure Albanian must be even more south than iberians etc. Thats totally bullshit..

I think its possible for a pure blooded Albanian to plot east of north italy like i do but according to Albos here nahhh nan it aint possible, too northern.. serbiiian wives meen.. some of them got more slavic ancestry as they even said they took serbian brides yet more Southern... these fking tards only used few samples and think they make up some pure cluster. ChocolateFace probably plots even more northern than me.

Well, I plot east of Northern Italians while some other Albanians plot more south i.e East of Tuscans or even more south and they get tuscan, sicilian etc high here and other calcs while I get northern italian which explains why im more north but there are plenty of Albanians like me too and even more north of me. Northern italians are the Northern most plotting italians overall.. but these things are rather ancient but the low iq albos cannot understand that. I dont even plot that north and some ancient samples plotted north like that too . Its apparently ''north'' for Albanians here, rather they are extremely south as i told them before which is why i suggested they could have more greco tosk ancestry rather than ancestry from the Northern balkans as they are way too southern plotting.

XenofobicPRussian here was saying those Ilyrian samples plotted with northern italians or east of them or something and that balkanites have become more south

Apparently ilyrians, thracians etc were like eastetn italians

Neither does plotting north east like ive seen some Albanian do indicate slavic, where you end rather depends on what you score and where you get pulled.

But theres no point talkong to these fking tards... me getting northern italy etc while they overall more Southern areas should explain why i plot more Northern which isnt obviously balto slavic influence...

But youre absolutely right its not even northern and normal for an Albanian like me... it could easily be a pure Albanian cluster.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

These Albanians are fucking stupid man. Theyre dumb as they fucking come. Apparently a pure Albanian must be even more south than iberians etc. Thats totally bullshit..

I agree with most of what you say but Iberians are not "more South", we're more Western shifted and plot Northern (than Albos in this case).

[Lek]

My WHG isnt really high compared to west euros etc. Just compared to these Southern plotting faggot Albanians it might be...they get more neolithic. its only like 2% difference in some, others get same as me.

And i was right that they plot more Southern because they are more Southern Balkan and more similar to Southern italians etc while im overall more northern rather than Balto slavic influence. This is what this map says atleast. I also really do seem more related to Malsors.

[Lek]

I agree with most of what you say but Iberians are not "more South", we're more Western shifted and plot Northern (than Albos in this case).

Nah i didnt mean youre more Southern... but a pure Albanian can plot as northern as a portuguese or northern italian is what i meant and doesnt imply foreign ancestry it just depends on the people you use.. Northern italy isnt even that north and geographically same as northern balkans, but according to Albanians here to plot there must be from Serbian wives lol... if it had been a more northern geographical area than the Balkans i would agree but northern italy is just seperated from Balkans by an ocean, a beautiful ocean... if it had been austria or something more northern or half way to hungary etc then yes but where i plot isnt even north rather some of these who are claiming its north are rather extremely south.

kosovar average there was ca. North east of Tuscans.. i plotted right north of it and its just an average meaning youll have a bunch of people plotting north of it and even south and the more people you add to the average the more it probably changes etc.

Some here plotted very south of it.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Nah i didnt mean youre more Southern... but a pure Albanian can plot as northern as a portuguese or northern italian is what i meant and doesnt imply foreign ancestry it just depends on the people you use.. Northern italy isnt even that north and geographically same as northern balkans, but according to Albanians here to plot there must be from Serbian wives lol... if it had been a more northern geographical area than the Balkans i would agree but northern italy is just seperated from Balkans by an ocean, a beautiful ocean... if it had been austria or something more northern or half way to hungary etc then yes but where i plot isnt even north rather some of these who are claiming its north are rather extremely south.

kosovar average there was ca. North east of Tuscans.. i plotted right north of it and its just an average meaning youll have a bunch of people plotting north of it and even south and the more people you add to the average the more it probably changes etc.

Some here plotted very south of it.

What is making you plot northern has probably nothing to do with Slavic components, in your case at least. I cluster very well with North Italians and I have virtually zero Slav/Balkan ancestry. What's making you plot there is probably a combination of higher than Albanian average of West Med + North Sea, while Albos plotting southern are more East Med + West Asian shifted.