Post you're PUNTDNAL K12 modern results

[Jana]

I2a1b was never proven to be slavic, a user here called cosmo(or something around this) proved it multiple times that the specific clade from balkanites is of germanic origin and only recently slavicised(language shift)And only the R1a-m458 and R1a-z280 are the main balto-slavic branches.

I know his opinion and it is intriguing. Anyway Cosmoo stated million times it is not native Balkan (Illyrian) marker, as Bosniensis belives.
By the way, there is no proof for slavic origin of R1a either in ancient DNA. But it is.

[Thiamarkos]

I know his opinion and it is intriguing. Anyway Cosmoo stated million times it is not native Balkan (Illyrian) marker, as Bosniensis belives.
By the way, there is no proof for slavic origin of R1a either in ancient DNA. But it is.

R1a is not slavic, there was a no such thing as slav ethnic group tens of thousands of years ago when it formed.It is not cosmoo opinion that that specific I2a1b branch from balkanites/east europeans is of germanic origin, but the international view, atleast for the moment.

[Jana]

R1a is not slavic, there was a no such thing as slav ethnic group tens of thousands of years ago when it formed.It is not cosmoo opinion that that specific I2a1b branch from balkanites/east europeans is of germanic origin, but the international view, atleast for the moment.

proof ?

[Seya]

Weird results, was never close to Croatians, but probably because "Serb" is missing.

# Population Percent
1 European_HG 36.6
2 Anatolian_NF 33.53
3 Caucasus_HG 23.57
4 Near_East 4.99
5 Amerindian 1.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 1.25
2 Romanian 4.35
3 Dutch_South 5.57
4 Hungarian 6.04
5 Belgian 6.76
6 Bulgarian 6.83
7 Utahn_European 7.63
8 German_South 8.05
9 English_South 8.96
10 Dutch_North 9.83
11 Irish 9.99
12 French 10.31
13 Czech 10.39
14 German_North 10.5
15 Scottish_West 11.79
16 Norwegian 12.87
17 Albanian 13.49
18 Swedish 14.6
19 Greek 14.9
20 Italian_Bergamo 14.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% Bulgarian + 40.9% Dutch_North @ 0.78
2 60.7% Bulgarian + 39.3% German_North @ 0.92
3 79% German_North + 21% Druze @ 0.98
4 78.2% Dutch_North + 21.8% Cypriot @ 1
5 99.4% Croatian + 0.6% Mayan @ 1.01
6 99.4% Croatian + 0.6% Pima @ 1.01
7 96.5% Croatian + 3.5% Tuscan @ 1.1
8 53.2% Hungarian + 46.8% Bulgarian @ 1.1
9 95.8% Croatian + 4.2% Albanian @ 1.1
10 96.3% Croatian + 3.7% Italian_Bergamo @ 1.11

there is something wrong with this calculator. u end up more romanian the me. this is my Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.4% Romanian + 14.6% Lebanese @ 2.26
2 80.1% Romanian + 19.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.3
3 85.4% Romanian + 14.6% Cypriot @ 2.34
4 87.4% Romanian + 12.6% Jordanian @ 2.34
5 87.1% Romanian + 12.9% Druze @ 2.35
6 87% Romanian + 13% Palestinian @ 2.38
7 86.6% Romanian + 13.4% Syrian @ 2.4
8 67.7% Hungarian + 32.3% Turkish_Jew @ 2.42
9 88% Romanian + 12% Iraqi_Jew @ 2.47
10 77.6% Romanian + 22.4% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.53
11 78.4% Romanian + 21.6% Sicilian_East @ 2.54
12 76.5% Romanian + 23.5% Sicilian_West @ 2.57
13 86.8% Romanian + 13.2% Assyrian @ 2.6
14 85.8% Romanian + 14.2% Tunisian_Jew @ 2.62
15 87.6% Romanian + 12.4% BedouinA @ 2.63
16 87.9% Romanian + 12.1% Iranian_Jew @ 2.63
17 82.9% Romanian + 17.1% Moroccan_Jew @ 2.65
18 67.8% Hungarian + 32.2% Moroccan_Jew @ 2.67
19 85.9% Romanian + 14.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.68
20 84.9% Romanian + 15.1% Libyan_Jew @ 2.7

[Thiamarkos]

proof ?

Sure, go ahead and pm cosmoo for a detailed explanation.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

R1a is not slavic, there was a no such thing as slav ethnic group tens of thousands of years ago when it formed.It is not cosmoo opinion that that specific I2a1b branch from balkanites/east europeans is of germanic origin, but the international view, atleast for the moment.

R1a-M458, R1a-Z280 and I2a-Din can be considered as proto-Slavic haplogroups.

I2a-Din came with Slavs to Balkan.

[Thiamarkos]

with clear tatar origin, you are not even romanian to begin with...

[Vlatko Vukovic]

proof ?

There is no proof about it. Becouse R1a-M458 is typical Slavic mutation of R1a.
Also, that can be found in some Turkic tribes, but mainly that is mostly foundable in Poland, then also in neigbouring countries.

[Seya]

with clear tatar origin, you are not even romanian to begin with...

with who are u talking to?

[Thiamarkos]

R1a-M458, R1a-Z280 and I2a-Din can be considered as proto-Slavic haplogroups.

I2a-Din came with Slavs to Balkan.

There is no proof whatsoever that I2a-Din is proto-slavic or that it came with slav.At the time of proto-slavs, I2a-Din lived in North-Western Europe.