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    Quote Originally Posted by Longobarda View Post
    Hahahha you wish. Yours sephardic jews were not all expelled from Spain. As you PERFECTLY KNOW, many converted or pretended to convert to christianism in order to keep their goods. Many kept their original surnames, many others adopted "christian" surnames. Maybe you are one of them and you don't know.
    Still TODAY, Israel calls Spain SEPHARAD.
    Oh wow, you're quite informative!

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    just did k25 test in gene plazza i score 0% iberian
    that explain everything and why i don't get very well with the iberians in this
    forum it is genetic

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    Originally Posted by Longobarda Jews of Bologna are famous for what? Sephardis ended everywere, in Morocco, in Turkey (the illuminated Soliman the magnificent understood that they were cult, clever and rich), in Greece (Thessaloníki), in Israel, in Portugal (then expelled as well), in Italy (cities that I've already mentioned before), in Holland, in France, In Poland, in Germany, in Switzerland, in Hungary, in England, in Russia..... etc. etc. not only in Italy. BUT MANY OF THEM REMAINED IN SPAIN with surnames taken by the "christians" (christians like you, that means ZERO christians).

    STOP CALLING YOUR KINGS ISABEL AND FERNANDO "CATHOLIC". THEY WERE NEITHER CATHOLIC NOR HUMAN BEING.

    EVEN THE POPES DID NOT EXPEL THE JEWS!!!!!

    p.s. the "italian" haplo J is NEOLITHIC, not jew. Of course, if you go and tale samples from people of Ferrara or Livorno, the probability that you find "jew" haplogroup is high, those were cities historically hosting the sephardic jews of Spain

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    This is not what genetic and history say, Terrona

    Cities historically hostil to Jews? you are truly ignorant. Learn a bit about the historical Sephardi Jewish community of Bologna

    The only cities historically l hostil to Jews... were those where Spaniards ruled, analphabet
    This so DUMB guy calls me ANALPHABET when the only ANALPHABET here is him!! Start learning english stupid chorizo!! TO HOST means have somebody as guest and not to be HOSTILE.

    Cristiano viejo is a chorizo viejo y podrido
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drawing-slim View Post
    There no American president that will be sworn in office without sworn loyalty to isreal first.
    Isreali prime minister held meeting and speech in congress without Obama’s approval nor invitation, which is unprecedented in history of any country. So who owns the US?
    It Germany not Britain, not Italy, no other country in the world has more power and influence on US like isreal does.
    in my debate with Cristiano Viejo we were not talking about present days Israel, which is not defensible on their behaviour to palestinians, we were talking about medioeval jews in Spain (then partially expelled) who were those who translated greek texts of the most famous philosophers, people with a great culture that could cohabit peacefully with christians and muslims in many cities of Spain, but specially in Toledo. That era was brilliant from a cultural point of view but Cristiano Viejo who is racist hates both arabs and jews because he thinks that spaniards are a superior race. Which is not true at all.

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    you may be wrong i think he meant Hostile.. and not to host


    but yes, he understood wrongly

    he understood that you wrote host as hostile


    btw it seems worst christian fanatism in the world was in spain. no one reached the level of inquisition except them

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiCa View Post
    you may be wrong i think he meant Hostile.. and not to host


    but yes, he understood wrongly

    he understood that you wrote host as hostile


    btw it seems worst christian fanatism in the world was in spain. no one reached the level of inquisition except them
    He does not know english. That's it. HOSTED is not HOSTILE. The first is a verb "TO HOST" in past tense third plural person. The second is an adjective!!
    But he is such an arrogant person that he calls me "analphabet" ....... very negative guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post

    common
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMPjkfCGz2k

    we were in the levant from the beginning of time you are confusing with e1b1a dude

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    According to the genetic analyses done on six Natufian remains from Northern Israel, the Natufians carried the Y-DNA haplogroup E-Z830, a slightly upwind clade of E-M123 (and therefore ancestral to it).[1] The Natufians were one of the first settled peoples in the world and may have contributed to the domestication of certain crops, and thus the advent of agriculture. The discovery of E-Z830 (without other clades) suggests an indigenous presence in Canaan and Israel that predates all other clades, which are not known to have existed in the region at the time (10,000 years before present). E-M123 is thought to have a MRCA about 4,750 years ago,[2] 5-6,000 years after the Natufian (possibly ancestral) remains are from, suggesting a South Levantine origin for M123 and subclades like M34 and M136.
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    Where did haplogroup E1b1b in Europeans come from?

    They came from North Africa and Middle East, as it originated there (E1b1b). The key point is that some of them came a long fucking time ago..
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