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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Speaking as someone with some Sephardi ancestry (but more Ashkenazi) & with an IQ in the 99th percentile I'd say that IQ is bullshit. It doesn't test things like creativity. I also think it's cultural.
    It isn't bullshit or cultural (at least not the non-verbal variants), but it doesn't test creativity, that's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    It isn't bullshit or cultural (at least not the non-verbal variants), but it doesn't test creativity, that's true.
    I mean it tests what it tests. I've met some very stupid geniuses (if you know what I mean).
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    I mean it tests what it tests. I've met some very stupid geniuses (if you know what I mean).
    Yeah but its not like it just tests how good you are at taking the test, it pretty accurately tests pattern recognition ability

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    Yeah but its not like it just tests how good you are at taking the test, it pretty accurately tests pattern recognition ability
    A lot of the really intelligent Ashkenazim I know are socially retarded. I'm just being honest.
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    A lot of the really intelligent Ashkenazim I know are socially retarded. I'm just being honest.
    Just because many Jews and whites are socially libtard doesn't mean their average IQ is low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    That's mostly true (bar German Jewish bankers), most people nowadays don't realise that Sephardim used to be on top.

    If I'm not mistaken, when Oliver Cromwell decided to allow Jews back into Britain, the Sephardim tried to convince him not to let the Ashkenazim in, because they saw them as so backwards!
    Yeah thats true, in Mexico during the colonial days, Sephardic Jews especially those from Portugal were on top in Mexico

    "On the other hand, the settlement of the Sephardic community of Lusitanian conversation in Mexico (Mexico City, Guadalajara, Morelia, Acapulco, Veracruz and Puebla) was of great relevance. Virtually all the international and local commerce from the 17th to the 18th centuries was in the hands of of the descendants of Jewish Portuguese converts. As an example we have a great character, Don Simón Báez Sevilla (also known as Báez de Castelo Branco) who became the richest Jew of Lusitanian origin in Mexico of those years. Based in Mexico City, Simón Báez Sevilla was the head of the important Mexican Crypto-Jewish community of Portuguese origin, reaching several synagogues"

    Sephardic Jews were extremely influential in Mexico and its economy during those days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
    That's mostly true (bar German Jewish bankers), most people nowadays don't realise that Sephardim used to be on top.

    If I'm not mistaken, when Oliver Cromwell decided to allow Jews back into Britain, the Sephardim tried to convince him not to let the Ashkenazim in, because they saw them as so backwards!
    Completely irrelevant. IQ means very little in the USA, where entrepreneurial skills or being innovative are both more important.

    I'd say the low IQ groups like Blacks and Mestizos will always be at the bottom of the ladder but Indians will stay competitive.

    Here is an old paper (2009) about us: (interesting, only one of the authors is Indian and one is a Greek-American - i'd like to show it to wvwvwv)

    Indian Entrepreneurial Success in the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom

    ROBERT W. FAIRLIE
    HARRY KRASHINSKY
    JULIE ZISSIMOPOULOS
    KRISHNA B. KUMAR

    Indian immigrants in the United States are highly successful in entrepreneurship. The average net business income of Indian entrepreneurs is $84,080, significantly higher than the national average of $52,086. The success of Indian entrepreneurs in the United States is particularly striking, given India’s low per capita income -- only $2,644 adjusted for purchasing power parity. Immigrants from countries where the per capita income is much higher than in India, including Taiwan, Korea, Greece, Germany, and England, have substantially lower entrepreneurial earnings
    than Indian entrepreneurs in the United States. In fact, Indian immigrants have the highest average net business income of all immigrant groups in the United States. The evidence on Indian immigrants’ entrepreneurial achievement in other wealthy countries such as the United Kingdom and Canada is less conclusive, but also suggestive of success.1

    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/ran...RAND_WR727.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    Yeah thats true, in Mexico during the colonial days, Sephardic Jews especially those from Portugal were on top in Mexico

    "On the other hand, the settlement of the Sephardic community of Lusitanian conversation in Mexico (Mexico City, Guadalajara, Morelia, Acapulco, Veracruz and Puebla) was of great relevance. Virtually all the international and local commerce from the 17th to the 18th centuries was in the hands of of the descendants of Jewish Portuguese converts. As an example we have a great character, Don Simón Báez Sevilla (also known as Báez de Castelo Branco) who became the richest Jew of Lusitanian origin in Mexico of those years. Based in Mexico City, Simón Báez Sevilla was the head of the important Mexican Crypto-Jewish community of Portuguese origin, reaching several synagogues"

    Sephardic Jews were extremely influential in Mexico and its economy during those days.
    You oversize the influence of Jews in Mexico. Same than some centuries ago in medieval Spain, Jews were allowed (never forget this) to be involved in business, finances, etc, but always under supervision of the crown or competent authorities.

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