Pazyryk Scythian aDNA results (mtDNA)

[Pennywise]

Mexicans speak Spanish, an Indo-European language? Yes they do. But they are only 40-50% Spanish.

Can you prove that Pazyryk people spoken an Indo-European language?

[Leto]

I'm aware of that, the thing I am againt is that people use "Scythian" word as an umbrella term to lumb all the semi-nomadic steppe people from Eastern Europe to Siberia together and identify them as "Indo-European" by ignoring all the differences.

Well, the Scythian language and lifestyle/culture might have been adopted by mixed-race people of Eurasia, why not.

[Leto]

Who made this?
And that's based on what data?
Since when Armenians are 100% European?
They are closest to Assyrians, even more than they are to the West Asiatic Georgians.

Armenians are less than 10% European/North Euro genetically.
Turks are more than them for example.

You didn't mention the fact that Kazakhs cannot be 75-80% East Eurasian.

[Peterski]

https://s2.postimg.org/b1mkzjzh5/k36-scytosamrat.jpg



And:

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6nu45UX-N...mads_Fig_7.png

[Pennywise]

@Litvin, for the love of God, Allah, Tengri and your wooden-made swamp gods Perun and Veles, spare us from that retarded K36 calc. made by a Polak. That calc. is an absolute trash.

[Peterski]

So use other calcs if you want. GEDmatch kit numbers are listed there. Sample Is2 is almost fully Caucasoid.

[Peterski]

Can you prove that Pazyryk people spoken an Indo-European language?

I don't know. But remember that Pazyryk people were never actually called "Scythians".

The name Scythians was applied by Ancient Greeks to those living near the Black Sea.

Archaeologists started calling everything between Altai and the Black Sea "Scythians".

[Leto]

So use other calcs if you want. GEDmatch kit numbers are listed there. Sample Is2 is almost fully Caucasoid.

They are deleted. I've tried 3 of them now.

[Pennywise]

So use other calcs if you want. GEDmatch kit numbers are listed there. Sample Is2 is almost fully Caucasoid.

Somehow Pazyryk sample is removed from Gedmatch. Just tried that ID too, it says Kit number not found. In the OP, all the calc. results are listed anyway. I'm talking about the "Scythians" from Altai region, not the ones in Eastern Europe.

[Peterski]

Those from the Altai region could be already Turkic-speaking if they had so much of Mongoloid admixture.

But we don't know for sure. It is possible that they preserved Iranic language despite mixing with Proto-Turks.