Pazyryk Scythian aDNA results (mtDNA)

[Proto-Shaman]

There is evidence for it, you just don’t want to accept it

Only in your wet dreams maybe.

[Böri]

Stalin replaced God for the baboon masses in the USSR once upon a time. Entire cities, factories, car brands were named after Father Stalin.
Soviet historiography gifted Scythians for Thou Father Stalin. Just to appear kind.
The same Stalinist school to this day still pretends Viking Rus' clan wasn't Viking (Germanic) but Balto-Slav!

It's funny how the civilized world kept on that Stalinist history revisionism and falsifications. They still insist all the pastoralist nomads between South Siberia and Crimea were all 'Iranic' ... In fact that's just crazy.

[Kelmendasi]

Only in your wet dreams maybe.

Lol, I don’t care about Scythians being IE or anything being IE in general, what matters to me is facts and the fact is that the actual Scythians were IE although some eastern ones would’ve had some Turkic influences. And there are Saka inscriptions which confirm it as being Iranic

[Böri]

Lol, I don’t care about Scythians being IE or anything being IE in general, what matters to me is facts and the fact is that the actual Scythians were IE although some eastern ones would’ve had some Turkic influences. And there are Saka inscriptions which confirm it as being Iranic

Those inscriptions were written by agriculturalist, farming, non-nomad East Iranians of Khoten... with Semitic-origin alphabet...
Already talked about that.

[Proto-Shaman]

Lol, I don’t care about Scythians being IE or anything being IE in general, what matters to me is facts and the fact is that the actual Scythians were IE although some eastern ones would’ve had some Turkic influences. And there are Saka inscriptions which confirm it as being Iranic

Good point: facts. You don't know them.

[Kelmendasi]

Those inscriptions were written by agriculturalist, farming, non-nomad East Iranians of Khoten... with Semitic-origin alphabet...
Already talked about that.

They were still Saka and that’s undisputable, also I already established how scripts can’t be linked to language families so calling it “Semitic” is really innacurate and the Turkic alphabet also developed from these so called “Semitic” scripts

[Kelmendasi]

Good point: facts. You don't know them.

Oh yeah I forgot, everything under the sun is Turkic

[Böri]

They were still Saka and that’s undisputable, also I already established how scripts can’t be linked to language families so calling it “Semitic” is really innacurate and the Turkic alphabet also developed from these so called “Semitic” scripts

Khotan Empire was East Iranian. Stretching from Transoxiana up until modern Tarim basin which now lies in west China.
They were Buddhist agriculturalists.
They had villages, they were settled, they were farming. They weren't nomads.

They are proto-Tajiks and proto-Sogdians.
That has nothing to do with the nomads of the steppes.

Their script was Aramaic which was a Semitic alphabet. Turkic runes was self-developed (Thomsen said Turks might some cheating on Chinese but runic and letter style making unique).

[Kelmendasi]

Khotan Empire was East Iranian. Stretching from Transoxiana up until modern Tarim basin which now lies in west China.
They were Buddhist agriculturalists.

They are proto-Tajiks and proto-Sogdians.
That has nothing to do with the nomads of the steppes.

The inscriptions were proven to be from the Saka though, so the history of Khotan is irrelevant to what I am saying. So for something to be Scythian or Turkic they have to be nomads?

[Böri]

So for something to be Scythian or Turkic they have to be nomads?

Originally, yes.
Herodotus referred to nomads living all way from Crimea to Siberia with the word Scythian.
Farmers, villager agriculturalists weren't Scythian.