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    LOL, at Greeks and Italians getting above 1% SSA

    Gedrosia calculators in general are optimized for individuals with predominantly S Asian or W Asian Ancestry So I would not be surprised if it overestimated my E_Eurasian component :

    Population :
    E_Eurasian 3.44
    SSA 0.42
    W_Eurasian 96.14

    However, I am well within the modern European normal range which is 95% W_Eurasian and above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS View Post
    LOL, at Greeks and Italians getting above 1% SSA

    Gedrosia calculators in general are optimized for individuals with predominantly S Asian or W Asian Ancestry So I would not be surprised if it overestimated my E_Eurasian component :

    Population :
    E_Eurasian 3.44
    SSA 0.42
    W_Eurasian 96.14

    However, I am well within the modern European normal range which is 95% W_Eurasian and above.
    Why are you laughing at Greeks and Italians when you have some SSA yourself? You can use the 1 drop rule if you want to play that game and it looks like you have 42 drops LOL.

    Anyways, there is virtually NO meaningful difference between 0.40 and 1.01. You'd literally be splitting hairs with 0.61%.

    Besides, the average White American has some RECENT SSA in them as per 23andme's average due to the colonial nature of the country and slavery. At least the SSA if it exists, in Greeks and Italians, is ancient and not recent. You can't say the same for the average White American where admixture has only taken place in the last 500 years with Amerindians and Blacks.

    "The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American." - https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/s...ity-study.html

    All Europeans have Basal SSA in them. A few %. Nobody is free of it. This calculator measures ancient genomes I think but does it relatively poorly.

    This calculator isn't meant for modern day individuals. The results are wrong and they overestimate the results of SSA for Southern Europeans. I saw someone who was only HALF Italian get 1% SSA. That doesn't make any sense given what we know about admixture in Southern Europeans.

    Some Spaniards and Northern Italians get no SSA but Norweigans get 0.08? Bullshit. Norweigans OBVIOUSLY have less SSA than Spaniards, it just makes logical sense. Basques included. The calculator is fucked.

    You're better off using Eurogenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Basque?

    Closest i ve seen so far were people from Piedmont and Lombardy. It's a combination of no SSA and lowest ANE possible (ofc E.Asian too)
    Calculator is wrong. Full Spaniards definetley have SSA. More than Italians or Greeks. You know it's wrong when it shows a Spanish person as 100% W_Eurasian but a Norweigan person as having 0.08% SSA.

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    Eurasia K3 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 96.16
    2 E_Eurasian 3.84




    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    2 Hungarian @ 0.274568
    3 Ukrainian @ 0.624512
    4 Bulgarian @ 1.114490
    5 Norwegian @ 1.265331
    6 Georgian @ 1.379323
    7 Belarusian @ 1.546629
    8 Czech @ 1.615664
    9 Croatian @ 1.699715
    10 Estonian @ 2.210319
    11 Albanian @ 2.463235
    12 French @ 2.525867
    13 Armenian @ 2.617859
    14 Greek @ 2.750793
    15 Abkhasian @ 2.780035
    16 English @ 3.032735
    17 Loschbour @ 3.230254
    18 Spanish @ 3.556102
    19 Georgian_Jew @ 3.576594
    20 Assyrian @ 3.732844

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belarusian +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
    2 50% Belarusian +50% Czech @ 0.000000
    3 50% Belarusian +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
    4 50% Croatian +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
    5 50% Czech +50% Estonian @ 0.000000
    6 50% English +50% Loschbour @ 0.000000
    7 50% Estonian +50% French @ 0.000000
    8 50% Hungarian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    9 50% Hungarian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
    10 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    11 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
    12 50% Norwegian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
    13 50% Hungarian +50% Hungarian @ 0.274568
    14 50% Chechen +50% Stuttgart @ 0.292381
    15 50% French +50% Loschbour @ 0.345741
    16 50% Albanian +50% Estonian @ 0.352750
    17 50% Bulgarian +50% Ukrainian @ 0.374300
    18 50% English +50% Estonian @ 0.413430
    19 50% Belarusian +50% French @ 0.418818
    20 50% French_South +50% Loschbour @ 0.446712


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belarusian +25% Belarusian +25% Bergamo @ 0.000000

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS View Post
    LOL, at Greeks and Italians getting above 1% SSA

    Gedrosia calculators in general are optimized for individuals with predominantly S Asian or W Asian Ancestry So I would not be surprised if it overestimated my E_Eurasian component :

    Population :
    E_Eurasian 3.44
    SSA 0.42
    W_Eurasian 96.14

    However, I am well within the modern European normal range which is 95% W_Eurasian and above.
    I get 0 SSA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    I get 0 SSA
    Which is weird. You should be getting MORE than him. Maybe 0.70 or something. Someone who is half Italian and half British Isles would get something like 0.50 maybe. Not a full 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadSeedXii View Post
    Which is weird. You should be getting MORE than him. Maybe 0.70 or something. Someone who is half Italian and half British Isles would get something like 0.50 maybe. Not a full 1%.
    Maybe he has SSA ancestry from his colonial ancestry? Anyway east euros get the least SSA on this calc

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 76.84
    2 E_Eurasian 22.49


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Kalash @ 0.875063
    2 Pashtun_Afghan @ 2.040473
    3 Pathan @ 3.381350
    4 Tajik_Pomiri @ 4.235291
    5 Tajik @ 4.724764
    6 Balochi @ 4.730951
    7 Brahui @ 5.142282
    8 Sindhi @ 8.136849
    9 Makrani @ 8.595999
    10 Kurd_SE @ 8.719962
    11 GujaratiA @ 10.770365
    12 Kshatriya @ 10.986843
    13 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 12.389088
    14 Uzbek_Afghan @ 12.566777
    15 Tajik_Afghan @ 14.371593
    16 Balkar @ 14.460731
    17 Turkmen @ 14.941436
    18 Turkish @ 15.081805
    19 GujaratiB @ 16.217466
    20 UP_Brahmin @ 16.249363

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Albanian +50% Hazara_Afghan @ 0.000000
    2 50% Balkar +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 0.000000
    3 50% Balkar +50% Turkmen @ 0.000000
    4 50% Chechen +50% Punjabi @ 0.000000
    5 50% Croatian +50% UP_Muslim @ 0.000000
    6 50% Czech +50% UP_Muslim @ 0.000000
    7 50% Greek +50% Hazara_Afghan @ 0.000000
    8 50% GujaratiB +50% Russian @ 0.000000
    9 50% Kanjar +50% Norwegian @ 0.000000
    10 50% Norwegian +50% UP_Muslim @ 0.000000
    11 50% Stuttgart +50% UP_Caste @ 0.000000
    12 50% Burusho +50% Russian @ 0.272143
    13 50% Stuttgart +50% Uzbek @ 0.282693
    14 50% Russian +50% UP_Brahmin @ 0.295343
    15 50% Hungarian +50% Kanjar @ 0.296188
    16 50% English +50% Velama @ 0.313757
    17 50% GujaratiD +50% Ukrainian @ 0.315556
    18 50% Finnish +50% GujaratiB @ 0.318237
    19 50% Kanjar +50% Lithuanian @ 0.321884
    20 50% French +50% UP_Muslim @ 0.331896


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Altaian +25% Georgian_Jew @ 0.000000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decius View Post
    Maybe he has SSA ancestry from his colonial ancestry? Anyway east euros get the least SSA on this calc
    I know that. Polish and Russian get the least. I still think a lot of the calculations are off and have a margin of error though.

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    Anyway I think this calc overestimates the amount of E Eurasian euros have as usually on other calcs I get 1-2% Mong

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