Indigenous Balkan I2a1 in southern Albania

**Loki** · 02-04-2018, 12:54 AM

It's a nonsense. All I2 clades in the Balkans are Paleolithic in origin, and predate the Slavic invasion by a long shot. Slavs brought R1a to the region.

**Kelmendasi** · 02-04-2018, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Kouros

You speak of I2a1b in this post. Are there any other I2 clades in balkans? And what are their origin/spread?

Yh, I2a2a-Z161 which was found in the WHG of Serbia although today is found mainly among Germanic peoples, I2a2a-L699 which was found in Bronze Age Bulgaria some suggest it to have some link to the Yamna via some WHGs who got assimilated, I2a1a this haplogroup was also found in the WHG of Serbia iirc like other I2 Clare’s it is WHG in origin but was assimilated by Neolithic cultures which in this case was the Cardial ware culture and finally there is I2a1b-L161.1 which is the brother clade of I2a-Din it is almost only found in NW Europe and was found in many WHG samples it is found in small frequencies in Albanians and few other Balkanites although it is most probably of Germanic origin in them

**Kelmendasi** · 02-04-2018, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Loki

No, just that I'm totally tired to keep repeating the truth to you, only for it to be trampled upon and denied. I have time and again backed up what I said with evidence. I have just posted more evidence in a peer-reviewed scientific study, which you have again rejected. And what are YOUR credentials? Believe what you want. It's your ideology.

Lol ok...

**Scholarios** · 02-04-2018, 01:25 PM

Loki simply can't see the forest for the trees on this one. He is like this eupedia group and think the word "Paleolithic" is deeply meaningful. Anyways. tiresome.

**Jana** · 02-04-2018, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

It's a nonsense. All I2 clades in the Balkans are Paleolithic in origin, and predate the Slavic invasion by a long shot. Slavs brought R1a to the region.

LOL

**Vlatko Vukovic** · 02-04-2018, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Loki

It's a nonsense. All I2 clades in the Balkans are Paleolithic in origin, and predate the Slavic invasion by a long shot. Slavs brought R1a to the region.

Incorrect. So what haplogroups were Bastarnae?

**~~Bosniensis~~** · 02-04-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Incorrect. So what haplogroups were Bastarnae?

R1a or R1b of course.

People like you can't comprehend the fact that people from Bosnia, Bulgaria, Romania ruled the region's all up to Finland then got destroyed by R1a and R1b who came from Asia.

I2 was formed in Serbia (Core I2) then conquered everything North of Greece.

Before R1 invasions I2 was the primary Haplogroup in Europe and in Formed on Western Balkans.

I2a1b people are remenants of the remenants ...

I2 and I1 should be protected by UNESCO