Arpad dynasty DNA (kings of Hungary & Croatia)

[EdwardS]

R1a - either from the Bashkirs or from the Iranians! Let's remind the Arpad came to Hungary from the east!

[Dibran]

The muslim I2 guys are into that.

Explains Bosniensis genetics lol.

[Dibran]

R1a - either from the Bashkirs or from the Iranians! Let's remind the Arpad came to Hungary from the east!

Most likely. It would definitely shake things up if he was Z280 or M458.

[Stears]

According to "Gesta Hungarorum" Arpads were descended from Attila the Hun.

More exactly Gesta considered Árpád as the great grandson of Attila, but Gesta did not care about the elimination of 300 years from the Human history. It is similar to the phantom time hypothesis is a historical conspiracy theory asserted by Heribert Illig.

[Stears]

Say, I do not have an intuition...

=>> https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ropean+kingdom

Western Europeans are not descendants of proto IE people. Most of Hungary is not part of former Pannonian province of the Roman Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Basin

The name "Pannonian" comes from Pannonia, a province of the Roman Empire. Only the western part of the territory (the so-called Transdanubia) of modern Hungary formed part of the ancient Roman Province of Pannonia; this comprises less than 29% of modern Hungary, therefore Hungarian geographers avoid the terms "Pannonian Basin" and "Pannonian Plain".

[TheForeigner]

He is heartbroken, Bela III is his favorite King

But really, this only confirms what I suspected, and what Blogen wrote many times, that R1a was primarly haplogroup of conquering Magyars, not N1c.

Arpad kings probably intermarried with other European royalty by then already. Maybe someone knows something about this.

[Dunai]

Arpad kings probably intermarried with other European royalty by then already. Maybe someone knows something about this.

Indeed, the Árpád House was well mingled in and mixed with pan-European royalty, descending from all over Europe. Just another proof why Hungary is one of the essential states of Europe as we understand it today (post-Charles Martel). Based on a quick research, particularly Béla III from his mother's side he had Kievan Rus, Anglo Saxon, Byzantine and Varangian ancestry, while from his father's side he had Hungarian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Byzantine, Armenian, Kievan Rus, Varengian, Bohemian, Polish, Lotharingian, Lusatian, Polabian ancestry.

[TheForeigner]

Indeed, the Árpád House was well mingled in and mixed with pan-European royalty, descending from all over Europe. Just another proof why Hungary is one of the essential states of Europe as we understand it today (post-Charles Martel). Based on a quick research, particularly Béla III from his mother's side he had Kievan Rus, Anglo Saxon, Byzantine and Varangian ancestry, while from his father's side he had Hungarian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Byzantine, Armenian, Kievan Rus, Varengian, Bohemian, Polish, Lotharingian, Lusatian, Polabian ancestry.

So it's naive to try and figure out anything about Hungarian conqueror genetics, from this genetic study of Arpad dynasty king.

[Dunai]

So it's naive to try and figure out anything about Hungarian conqueror genetics, from this genetic study of Arpad dynasty king.

Of course that by late 13th century the Árpád Dynasty was already very involved in European affairs, also providing rulers to other states. The pure "Hungarianness" of the Árpád House ended with Béla I reign (who had a foreign wife) in mid 12th century, whose lineage gave the future kings of mixed ancestry of Hungary.

[Turul Karom]

R1 Turkic pride!