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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    Sooooo, did I get you right? Whites and Turks came from India?
    No, read again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    How do you count it? Only 2 were N1c, and we have several (more than four).
    2 out of 4 elite warrior graves were N1c1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    2 out of 4 elite warrior graves were N1c1.
    ...only in what you are quoting. We have many more graves studied now, including "elite warrior" burials. As stated there are many more haplogroups than N1 now. What is the confusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    That's completely normal. R1a-Z93 is Aryan, brought to İndia by Aryan conquerors, same as R2b brought to Americas by Whites. Turkic R2-Z93 is the result of fusing with Scythians (like happened in Hungarian confederation, Ugrics and Turkics fused).
    There's no proof of any Aryan invasion of India and even if there was they were already heavily mixed with South Asian DNA. Do no forget to get to India they must first go through Afghanistan who are a West Asian population with some ASI admixture.

    Many R1a-z93 Indians in return spread their DNA to Europe and middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harkonnen View Post
    Nonsense, most of the conquering Magyar warrior graves were N1c1, with some R1s
    Not true!

    YDNA / mtDNA from Hungarian conqueror aristocratic graves of Karos-Eperjesszög:
    R1b1b1a / B4d1
    R1b1b1a / H6a1b
    I2a / A12
    I2a / H6a1a

    YDNA from elite grave of Szabadkigyos-Palliget:
    N1c

    YDNA / mtDNA from elite grave of Örménykút:
    N1c / H

    So: 33% R1b (the aristocracy), 33% I2a (presumably their guards, because we find these two group in the Karos cemetery) and 33% N1c (rich leaders/warriors).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    There's no proof of any Aryan invasion of India and even if there was they were already heavily mixed with South Asian DNA. Do no forget to get to India they must first go through Afghanistan who are a West Asian population with some ASI admixture.

    Many R1a-z93 Indians in return spread their DNA to Europe and middle east.
    Avesta and Vegas tell the story of Aryans. In İndia it lost its original meaning though. Aryan was the self designation of pure Indo-İranians who traced their ancestry to Central Asia (Androvono) R haplogroup is not İndian, it's Central Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Not true!

    YDNA / mtDNA from Hungarian conqueror aristocratic graves of Karos-Eperjesszög:
    R1b1b1a / B4d1
    R1b1b1a / H6a1b
    I2a / A12
    I2a / H6a1a

    YDNA from elite grave of Szabadkigyos-Palliget:
    N1c

    YDNA / mtDNA from elite grave of Örménykút:
    N1c / H

    So: 33% R1b (the aristocracy), 33% I2a (presumably their guards, because we find these two group in the Karos cemetery) and 33% N1c (rich leaders/warriors).
    Ok, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    There's no proof of any Aryan invasion of India

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Not true!

    YDNA / mtDNA from Hungarian conqueror aristocratic graves of Karos-Eperjesszög:
    R1b1b1a / B4d1
    R1b1b1a / H6a1b
    I2a / A12
    I2a / H6a1a

    YDNA from elite grave of Szabadkigyos-Palliget:
    N1c

    YDNA / mtDNA from elite grave of Örménykút:
    N1c / H

    So: 33% R1b (the aristocracy), 33% I2a (presumably their guards, because we find these two group in the Karos cemetery) and 33% N1c (rich leaders/warriors).
    Why "N" is dead among modern-day Hungarians? I think it's literally 0% right?

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    R1b1b1a Hungarian aristocrats from the early 10th century Karos-Eperjesszög cemetery:

    Rich burial with partial horse burials (Andronovo origin tratition between the Ugrics):


    Rich Magyar horsemen:


    Some facial reconstruction:


    Their costume and arms:






    A burial mask (Finno-Ugric tradition in Europe):


    The burial mask tradition in Eurasia:

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