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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Because my ancestors were Mennonites, and Mennonites, like Orthodox Jews, have very high sexual morals.
    But mixed YDNA, like Orthodox Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaggy View Post
    My posts have gotten deleted an explanation would have been respectful at least....
    I deleted cyclical off-topic posts where you just go around calling me a bitch. Is this respectful enough for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But mixed YDNA, like Orthodox Jews.
    Most Mennonites are I1...

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    Im not an expert on DNA.

    But Isnt I1 usually associated with Nordic ydna? More accurately Mesolithic Euro?

    I recently read that R1b may be the dominant ydna in Germans but R1b was originally not IndoEuropean speakers.
    And Germanic language was created by spread and borrowing of Celtic and Slavic.

    Also how come some people say Nordic = Germanic?

    Sometimes confusing between the language and the dna.

    (its just questions to learn).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    Im not an expert on DNA.

    But Isnt I1 usually associated with Nordic ydna? More accurately Mesolithic Euro?

    I recently read that R1b may be the dominant ydna in Germans but R1b was originally not IndoEuropean speakers.
    And Germanic language was created by spread and borrowing of Celtic and Slavic.

    Also how come some people say Nordic = Germanic?

    Sometimes confusing between the language and the dna.

    (its just questions to learn).
    I1 itself probably arose in the Neolithic in Central Europe going by how the oldest I1 sample was from Neolithic Hungary and I1 hasn't been found in Mesolithic or Paleolithic Europe so far although it's ancestor was in Europe since the Paleolithic. The R1b which is found in modern Europeans is from Indo-Europeans and was originally found among them, the Yamna were dominantly R1b going by ancient samples. Germanic isn't the result of Slavic and Celtic mixing, the Germanic languages developed from their own branch of Indo-Europeans. People link Nordic with Germanics as Germanics arose in the Nordic Bronze Age culture I guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Most Mennonites are I1...
    How do you know this?
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    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    How do you know this?
    Because most West Germans are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovidiu View Post
    When you go back many generations, that direct lineage doesn't count for any more than other of your ancestors' lineages. It may be interesting, but that's about it.
    Actually thats when its more important. Because autosomal dna cant prove too distant relations. Haplos can though.

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