Croats - Best Warriors of Europe in last 1000 years? (Having in mind population number)

[Insuperable]

Not among the best but just THE best. Get it right.

For fuck sakes are you annoying.

[Böri]

Remember baby, remember.
How that was soft and quick.



Croats deployed a little more warriors than Turks.
80-95% of the mighty Croats were obliterated, with a 10% loss on the Turkish side.
This battle is still taught in military schools as example of perfect combat and tactics

[Jana]

Remember baby, remember.
How that was soft and quick.



80-95% of the mighty Croats were obliterated, with a 10% loss.
This battle is taught in military schools as example of perfect combat and tactics

Remember this too, dear Turk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_G%C3%BCns

The Siege of Güns or Siege of Kőszeg (Turkish: Güns Kuşatması) was a siege of Kőszeg (German: Güns) in the Kingdom of Hungary within the Habsburg Empire, that took place in 1532. In the siege, the defending forces of the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy under the leadership of Croatian Captain Nikola Jurišić (Hungarian: Miklós Jurisics), defended the small border fort of Kőszeg with only 700–800 Croatian soldiers, with no cannons and few guns. The defenders prevented the advance of the Ottoman army of 120,000–200,000 toward Vienna, under the leadership of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (Ottoman Turkish: سليمان‎ Süleymān) and Pargalı Ibrahim Pasha.

[Lucia]

Croats were also the best sailors and shipbuilders in central Europe. Also objectively the best chefs, winemakers etc.

[Jana]

Croats were also the best sailors and shipbuilders in central Europe. Also objectively the best chefs, winemakers etc.

Famous pirates too

Remember how Venetians called Croatian Duke Domagoj: ''worst Duke of Slavs'' because of constant warfare and piracy against Venice and Saracens in the Adratic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domagoj_of_Croatia

Neretljani were also famous pirates, just like Illyrians before them

[TEUTORIGOS]

Considering our numbers, with all modesty, I would say we are amongst the best or maybe THE BEST in last 1000 years.

During Austro-Hungary, Austrian Emperor had an elite soldiers - Croatian soldiers, as his guardians and most brutal and fearful soldiers.

Napoleon said that if you would give him like 100 000 Croats he would conquer entire planet.

We managed to survive and defend EUROPE AGAINST OTTOMANS, we were THE WALL they never broke, those areas (Slavonia and inland of Dalmatia, never entire Dalmatia) they did hold for 80 years were just wasteland of 24 hours fighting against Croats. Finally, when Ottomans realized they could never conquer us or our cities and heart of Croatia; we FUCKED AND KILLED Ottomans from those areas so rest of them RAN BACK TO BOSNIA LIKE DWARF ASIAN COWARDS THEY ARE.

Croats were and are true modern Spartans of Europe.

Everyone will admit it, everyone honorable here.

For example I dont hate Serbs, not even a bit, nevermind of war, but I bet in everythin you want they fear us deep down even today.

Germans in 19th century scared their children before bedtime with stories; "be good and go to sleep or Croats will get you" (Because of our elite soldiers in Austro-Hungary).

On stone tablet in Germany there is writin; "God save us from plague and Croatian warriors".

AND OFCOURSE; MONGOLS ADVANCE IN EUROPE WAS STOPPED BY CROATS. FACTS.

CHECK ALL OF THIS, this are all facts.

Croats are naturally BORN for fighting, genetically and anthropologically..., we are tall, robust, with old european Y-DNA and old Autosomal DNA.

I am not fan of Hitler (God forbid), but it's no wonder he picked us for allies.

How many Croats are in the elite French Foreign Legion 2 REP ? Us Irish/Brits are regulars within those ranks I think if I am not mistaken :

[RN97]

This blind idiotic nationalism is just annoying and it makes you sound ignorant. Croats benefited from it's location and religion. The first decisive battle with the Turks resulted in a Croatian defeat, and a devastating one. The Turks conquered most of Croatian lands and they also devastated their army:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Krbava_Field
Now the 2nd decisive battle was more about Germans than Croats arguably. The army was mainly led by Ruprecht von Eggenberg, doesn't sound so Croatian. That army defeated the Turks decisively and Croats "got most of their lands back"(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sisak), which I put in quotations because it succumbed to Hungarian and/ or Austrian rule.
There is no doubt that Croats like Albanians, Greeks, Bulgarians, Romanians etc. fought the Turks hard and bravely, but Croats are not unique. Had you been further south and not catholic, you'd be conquered much quicker than the other ethnic groups in SE Europe because you're not numerous like the others. Yeah a pope called Croatia the last bastion of christianity, but popes also said the same about Albania and Poland. A pope called Stephen the great "The true defender of the Christian faith" and many more people and persons have gotten praise from popes, it hasn't only happened once.

[Cool Story Bro]

Remember baby, remember.
How that was soft and quick.

Croats deployed a little more warriors than Turks.
80-95% of the mighty Croats were obliterated, with a 10% loss on the Turkish side.
This battle is still taught in military schools as example of perfect combat and tactics

2-3k against at least 150k. And yet you manage to lose 30k of your army and your Sultan? "turkish kebab warrior" lol

[Marmara]

Remember this too, dear Turk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_G%C3%BCns

The Siege of Güns or Siege of Kőszeg (Turkish: Güns Kuşatması) was a siege of Kőszeg (German: Güns) in the Kingdom of Hungary within the Habsburg Empire, that took place in 1532. In the siege, the defending forces of the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy under the leadership of Croatian Captain Nikola Jurišić (Hungarian: Miklós Jurisics), defended the small border fort of Kőszeg with only 700–800 Croatian soldiers, with no cannons and few guns. The defenders prevented the advance of the Ottoman army of 120,000–200,000 toward Vienna, under the leadership of Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent (Ottoman Turkish: سليمان‎ Süleymān) and Pargalı Ibrahim Pasha.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuyucu_Murad_Pasha

Croatian Grand Vizier (Prime Minister) in Ottoman Empire, who fought against Anatolian Turkish rebels , and was famous for his harsh methods.

[Insuperable]

The Turks conquered most of Croatian lands and they also devastated their army

They conquered most of the lands, but lands were under constant warfare thanks to Hajduks and Uskoks (kudos to Serbs too). Btw, you will eventually get conquered by a bigger army, but it was not easy and it was not possible to resist forever. For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Knin

Failed siege attempts
In 1510 around 1,000 Ottoman Akıncı ( irregular light cavalry) raided the countryside of Knin. There had been word that the Vice Ban of Croatia was captured on that occasion.[2] Three years later there was another siege of Knin, but Baltazar Baćan (Hungarian: Boldizsár Batthyány), Vice Ban of Slavonia, together with forces from the Zagreb Bishopry managed to lift the siege in January 1513. In February of the following year the Ottomans besieged Knin with 10,000 men from the Sanjak of Bosnia, but were unable to take the city and lost 500 troops. Knin's outskirts were burned on this occasion.[6][7]

These clashes left Knin devastated and there were no news about the city for 5 years. Local population was decimated by war, hunger, plague, and migration to safer places, and its economy was hindered by the seizure of crops and livestock. Due to Knin's strategic value, King Louis II responded to requests from captains of Knin, Skradin, and Ostrovica and promised reinforcements of 1,000 infantry and 1,000 cavalrymen. However, it is unlikely that these forces arrived to the endangered towns. In 1522 the Ottomans attacked Knin and the nearby forts not just to raid them, but with a firm intention to occupy the area.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Klis

Failed siege attempts
From 1513, Petar Kružić was one of the commanding officers of Klis Fortress.[9] The Ottomans attempted to conquer the Klis Fortress on several occasions.[2] The first major attempt was by Skender-beg Ornosović in 1515.[2] The Ottomans captured Klis, a village just below the fortress bearing the same name, but the garrison in the fortress above held.[10] Kružić was promoted to captain of the Klis Fortress by the ban Petar Berislavić in 1520.[9] The second major attempt was in 1520,[2] and a year later another attempt was made by Makut-paša, with additional 2,000 infantry, 50 horsemen and siege equipment.[11] Another unsuccessful attempt was made in 1522, by Hasan-paša from Mostar and Mehmed-beg Mihalbegović.[2][12] Later that year, Mihalbegović made another attempt at a siege with 3,000 men, but failed again.[2] During 1523, Klis Fortress was again under attack by the Sultan's army.[13] Attempts were also made by Gazi Husrev-beg in 1526 and 1528, and later in 1531 and 1532.[2]

In 1534, the Ottomans under Mihalbegović laid a months-long siege with a constant concentrated cannonade to the fortress.[2] Ferdinand urged the Pope to send ships to relieve the Ottoman siege.[14] Although the Ottomans eventually lifted the siege, Ferdinand was displeased that the Pope had provided no assistance in the defense of the fortress.[15] In 1535, the Ottomans tried to seize the fortress by treachery, and again in 1536, but they failed on both occasions.[2] During that year the Ottomans started a new siege which would last until the final fall of the fortress.[2]

When a large Ottoman force threatened the fortress, Kružić appealed to Ferdinand for help, but the Emperor's attention was diverted by an Ottoman attack in Slavonia.[8] Kružić led the defense of Klis, and with his soldiers fought almost alone against the Ottomans, as they repeatedly hurled armies against the fortress.[2] No troops from the Hungarian king arrived, as they were slaughtered by the Ottomans at the Battle of Mohács in 1526, and the Venetians baulked at sending any help.[2] Only the pope was willing to provide some men and money.[2]

And so on.