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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperivm View Post
    (3.4, 63.1, 26.5, 0, 6.9, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.1, 0)

    [1,] "Kent_1KG" "3.3226"
    [2,] "Dutch_D" "3.9674"
    [3,] "British_D" "4.6808"
    [4,] "Cornwall_1KG" "5.02"
    [5,] "British_Isles_D" "5.0229"
    [6,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "6.5894"
    [7,] "Irish_D" "8.2195"
    [8,] "Orkney_1KG" "10.3716"
    [9,] "Orcadian" "10.557"
    [10,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.584"
    [11,] "CEU" "12.131"
    [12,] "N._European" "12.4169"
    [13,] "French" "13.4034"
    [14,] "French_D" "14.462"
    [15,] "Norwegian_D" "14.5942"
    [16,] "Swedish_D" "16.6445"
    [17,] "German_D" "17.6717"
    [18,] "French_Basque" "22.8961"
    [19,] "Spaniards" "30.0125"
    [20,] "Slovenian" "30.3457"



    [1,] "11.9% French_Basque + 88.1% Kent_1KG" "1.2398"
    [2,] "82.9% British_Isles_D + 17.1% French_Basque" "1.7166"
    [3,] "86.5% British_Isles_D + 13.5% Spaniards" "1.8262"
    [4,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Spaniards" "1.8832"
    [5,] "87.2% British_Isles_D + 12.8% Spanish_D" "1.9203"
    [6,] "92.1% Kent_1KG + 7.9% Spanish_D" "1.9281"
    [7,] "87.4% British_Isles_D + 12.6% IBS" "1.9441"
    [8,] "7.6% IBS + 92.4% Kent_1KG" "1.9916"
    [9,] "89.3% British_Isles_D + 10.7% North_Italian" "2.03"
    [10,] "74.3% British_Isles_D + 25.7% French" "2.0403"
    [11,] "84.4% British_D + 15.6% French_Basque" "2.0569"
    [12,] "75.9% Cornwall_1KG + 24.1% French_D" "2.1132"
    [13,] "75.9% British_Isles_D + 24.1% French_D" "2.138"
    [14,] "87.8% British_D + 12.2% Spaniards" "2.1517"
    [15,] "76.1% British_D + 23.9% French" "2.1521"
    [16,] "77.5% British_D + 22.5% French_D" "2.1782"
    [17,] "94.7% Kent_1KG + 5.3% Sardinian" "2.1938"
    [18,] "88.5% British_D + 11.5% Spanish_D" "2.1976"
    [19,] "90.3% British_D + 9.7% North_Italian" "2.1981"
    [20,] "14.8% French_D + 85.2% Kent_1KG" "2.1989"

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    ^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperivm View Post
    ^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British!

    As I told you before, you have to drop the "W", embrace your Saxon blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperivm View Post
    ^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British!
    Well, you are closest to the Kentishmen (and so am I by the way!). So yes - as Kadu suggested - you are probably more Anglo-Saxon than average (well, the Jutes settled in Kent anyway).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Well, you are closest to the Kentishmen (and so am I by the way!). So yes - as Kadu suggested - you are probably more Anglo-Saxon than average (well, the Jutes settled in Kent anyway).
    It surprises me because my phenotype is atlantid and my farther looks like a typical 'Old Briton' mediterranid. However, my mother is very North European looking, and her parents are from the North of England. I expect that she would score very close to the Dutch/Kent groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imperivm View Post
    It surprises me because my phenotype is atlantid and my farther looks like a typical 'Old Briton' mediterranid. However, my mother is very North European looking, and her parents are from the North of England. I expect that she would score very close to the Dutch/Kent groups.
    I expect the mutations that cause a phenotypical look beeing quiet few.
    But you could also blame your estaminated Iberian admixture

    [1,] "11.9% French_Basque + 88.1% Kent_1KG" "1.2398"
    [2,] "82.9% British_Isles_D + 17.1% French_Basque" "1.7166"
    [3,] "86.5% British_Isles_D + 13.5% Spaniards" "1.8262"
    [4,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Spaniards" "1.8832"
    [5,] "87.2% British_Isles_D + 12.8% Spanish_D" "1.9203"
    [6,] "92.1% Kent_1KG + 7.9% Spanish_D" "1.9281"
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    Here is Loki (this time inlcuding the "Mixed mode"):

    [1,] "CEU" "10.1005"
    [2,] "N._European" "10.9398"
    [3,] "German_D" "11.3309"
    [4,] "Slovenian" "11.9122"
    [5,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.9445"
    [6,] "Orcadian" "12.3891"
    [7,] "Orkney_1KG" "12.7934"
    [8,] "French" "13.9101"
    [9,] "French_D" "14.0915"
    [10,] "Hungarians" "16.5795"
    [11,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "17.4161"
    [12,] "Dutch_D" "19.0431"
    [13,] "Kent_1KG" "21.4299"
    [14,] "Tuscan_H" "22.0259"
    [15,] "TSI" "22.1499"
    [16,] "Tuscan_X" "22.1504"
    [17,] "N_Italian_D" "22.5493"
    [18,] "Portuguese_D" "23.4017"
    [19,] "British_D" "23.5064"
    [20,] "British_Isles_D" "23.5323"

    And the mixed Mode:
    (note how all of these are even far closer than "average CEU" (wich is the closest single population), wich has a difference of 10.1)

    [1,] "49.8% Irish_D + 50.2% Romanians_14" "2.5352"
    [2,] "53.1% British_Isles_D + 46.9% Romanians_14" "2.5396"
    [3,] "53.1% British_D + 46.9% Romanians_14" "2.5474"
    [4,] "58.4% Dutch_D + 41.6% Romanians_14" "2.6267"
    [5,] "55.4% Kent_1KG + 44.6% Romanians_14" "2.6919"
    [6,] "52.5% Cornwall_1KG + 47.5% Romanians_14" "2.7072"
    [7,] "60.6% Mixed_Germanic_D + 39.4% Romanians_14" "2.729"
    [8,] "21.3% Greek_D + 78.7% N._European" "2.9889"
    [9,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_X" "2.9932"
    [10,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% TSI" "3.0231"
    [11,] "71.8% German_D + 28.2% O_Italian_D" "3.0621"
    [12,] "22.8% Greek_D + 77.2% Argyll_1KG" "3.18"
    [13,] "24.4% C_Italian_D + 75.6% German_D" "3.2441"
    [14,] "79.8% German_D + 20.2% S_Italian_D" "3.2901"
    [15,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_H" "3.3168"
    [16,] "48% Balkans_D + 52% Cornwall_1KG" "3.3483"
    [17,] "28.3% Romanians_14 + 71.7% N._European" "3.3483"
    [18,] "78.4% German_D + 21.6% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "3.3586"
    [19,] "42.1% Balkans_D + 57.9% Dutch_D" "3.5152"
    [20,] "79.2% German_D + 20.8% Sicilian_D" "3.5291"

    OK, since "CEU" is the closest single population, lets see, whats the difference is, to CEU average:

    [21,] "73.6% CEU + 26.4% Romanians_14" "3.555"
    [26,] "80.5% CEU + 19.5% Greek_D" "3.6377"
    [29,] "84% CEU + 16% Turkish_D" "3.7811"
    [38,] "85.6% CEU + 14.4% Cypriots" "3.998"

    Second closest single population is "N.European" wich is a group from a scientific study and includes... well "Northern Europeans". But I never actually saw a list, from what countries.

    [8,] "21.3% Greek_D + 78.7% N._European" "2.9889"
    [17,] "28.3% Romanians_14 + 71.7% N._European" "3.3483"
    [47,] "19.8% Sicilian_D + 80.2% N._European" "4.2124"

    And now the difference to average German (third closest single population):

    [9,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_X" "2.9932"
    [10,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% TSI" "3.0231"
    [11,] "71.8% German_D + 28.2% O_Italian_D" "3.0621"
    [13,] "24.4% C_Italian_D + 75.6% German_D" "3.2441"

    Hmm ok.
    Lets check from the Slovenian (4th) view:
    [35,] "45.7% French + 54.3% Slovenian" "3.9404"

    Now I check the values.
    West-Asian with rounded 11% is somewhat higher than average CEU (7%), GErman (7%), British (7%), Dutch (8%), French (5%) or Norwegian 4% (Lokis known anchestry)

    Places, in Europe, where that is higher:
    North Italy: 13%, Central Italy: 22%, South Italy: 26%, Sicily 23%
    Romania: 16%, Bulgaria: 17%, Greece 26%

    I think thats the value that is mainly responsable for Oracle wanting to mix some Italian or Southeastern European into it.
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    Dodecad 'Africa 9' calculator, designed for more specific African breakdowns.

    Here is what I get when I run mine through:

    67.17% Europe
    6.06% NW_Africa
    25.04% SW_Asia
    0.00% E_Africa
    1.01% S_Africa
    0.00% Mbuti
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.48% Biaka
    0.24% San
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    67.64% Europe
    2.87% NW_Africa
    26.49% SW_Asia
    0.03% E_Africa
    1.42% S_Africa
    0.01% Mbuti
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% Biaka
    1.53% San

    It seems pretty much everyone has this San bit:
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    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Africa 9 calc.


    60.14% Europe
    12.57% NW_Africa
    26.39% SW_Asia
    0.89% E_Africa
    0.00% S_Africa
    0.00% Mbuti
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% Biaka
    0.00% San

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