Native Europeans are mixed racially!

[Joso]

if thats enough for you for two populations to be the same why are you against somali refugees? then its not race mixing with somali refugees

Who said i am against Somali refugees?? I don't remember saiying that and yes, a marrayage between a European and a Somali is ok, i its not race micsing

[Mingle]

That's not necessarily true. European, Asian, and African are not monophyletic clades and never were monophyletic clades.

There are a few main genetic clusters: West Eurasian (inc. North African), East Eurasian, Amerindian, Australian, and so on. I think its fair to interpret these large genetic clusters as "races".

Cladistics would be used if we were arguing that human subgroups (West Eurasian, Asian, etc.) were different sub-species rather than different races. Dividing people by cladistics would be too hard due to all the intermixing that happened among humans.

The term race was historically used to refer to specific skeletal structures, but we could change its meaning to refer to any of the main human subgroups.

[Myanthropologies]

There are a few main genetic clusters: West Eurasian (inc. North African), East Eurasian, Amerindian, Australian, and so on. I think its fair to interpret these large genetic clusters as "races".

Cladistics would be used if we were arguing that human subgroups (West Eurasian, Asian, etc.) were different sub-species rather than different races. Dividing people by cladistics would be too hard due to all the intermixing that happened among humans.

The term race was historically used to refer to specific skeletal structures, but we could change its meaning to refer to any of the main human subgroups.

It is true that those groups you mention form the populations of humanity. However, thinks like "white," "black," etc. are socially constructed terms.

[Mingle]

Most known alleles associated with intelligence have lower frequency in Group N (you can guess), i can't do anything about it, that's how it is, but hey you can have other great qualities, i just notice the same people who deny this are quick to point out that some of them have higher frequency in East Asians (or Ashkenazi), which is true. Isn't it a bit strange intellectual process?

Do you have a source for this?

Also, Ashkenazi Jews are autosomally like South Italians and Greeks yet have a significantly higher IQ on average than any population in Europe, especially South Italians and Greeks. Putting this down to genetics is just lazy. If its down to specific alleles that Ashkenazis have that SIs/Greeks don't, then why is it that Ashkenazi Jews have specific intelligent alleles that no neighboring population has in anywhere near the same quantity?

[alnortedelsur]

There are a few main genetic clusters: West Eurasian (inc. North African), East Eurasian, Amerindian, Australian, and so on. I think its fair to interpret these large genetic clusters as "races".

Cladistics would be used if we were arguing that human subgroups (West Eurasian, Asian, etc.) were different sub-species rather than different races. Dividing people by cladistics would be too hard due to all the intermixing that happened among humans.

The term race was historically used to refer to specific skeletal structures, but we could change its meaning to refer to any of the main human subgroups.

You perfectly summarized the truth as simple and obvious like it is.

But some egalitarians cannot stand the truth and like to complicate things in a desperate effort to insist with their BS theories about all humans being the same and races being only "social constructs".

[Myanthropologies]

Do you have a source for this?

Also, Ashkenazi Jews are autosomally like South Italians and Greeks yet have a significantly higher IQ on average than any population in Europe, especially South Italians and Greeks. Putting this down to genetics is just lazy. If its down to specific alleles that Ashkenazis have that SIs/Greeks don't, then why is it that Ashkenazi Jews have specific intelligent alleles that no neighboring population has in anywhere near the same quantity?

Not to mention they are very different from their source populations in IQ (Levantines and North Italians)

[Myanthropologies]

Also, I've personally exchanged dialogue with David Reich before, and he shares most of the same views as me on this subject.

[Petalpusher]

Do you have a source for this?

Also, Ashkenazi Jews are autosomally like South Italians and Greeks yet have a significantly higher IQ on average than any population in Europe, especially South Italians and Greeks. Putting this down to genetics is just lazy. If its down to specific alleles that Ashkenazis have that SIs/Greeks don't, then why is it that Ashkenazi Jews have specific intelligent alleles that no neighboring population has in anywhere near the same quantity?

You mean besides every single IQ test ever performed and thousands of years of history? Yes genetically you can predict from which race you are just looking at the 4 most relevant SNP's associated with intelligence, there are +500 known today that are more or less associated with intelligence, but only 4 can suffice already






4 different studies, up to 100 SNP's. Do we continue? i have more. It looks like we are discovering hot water here, but really, we are not.

What exactly autosomal has to do with this? Same autosomal average (it's not really the same) like for Ashkenazi and S.Italians doesn't mean you have the same alleles frequency on selected SNP's, it just means overall, on all SNP's tested your frequencies are in the same proportion. Even then their genetic predispostion for intelligence are not that different, it's not like black and white, Australian or whatever. If you don't understand the difference, it's not "lazy".


Now even a few hours later, i still find hilarious a gypsy and paki try to propel the idea Europeans are mixed race, eventhough they don't believe in race of course, when the original statement of the thread from Reich that they embrassed was actually meant for South Asians, which they are part of, implying they are the mixed race here. Sorry even the next day i still find it funny to say the least, good comedy Apricity, as usual.

Also, i'm personally communicating with Charles Darwin as we speak, he mostly shares my view that's fun as well.

[Antimage]

So what is the point? Now we should mix with africans because we are ancient mix anyway? People don't call europeans mix race, cuz they are ancient mix. For the same reason Somalis aren't called mix race. The term mixed is usually referred to more recent mixes that happened in the past 500 years.

However, thinks like "white," "black," etc. are socially constructed terms.

If it's not biological can a dna test identify your race?

Also, Ashkenazi Jews are autosomally like South Italians and Greeks yet have a significantly higher IQ on average than any population in Europe, especially South Italians and Greeks.

What does that example prove? Even within one, genetically uniforum tightly clustered such as lithuanians you will dumb people and smart people. Intelligence =/= autosomal plotting.

[Myanthropologies]

So what is the point? Now we should mix with africans because we are ancient mix anyway? People don't call europeans mix race, cuz they are ancient mix. For the same reason Somalis aren't called mix race. The term mixed is usually referred to more recent mixes that happened in the past 500 years.

It doesn't matter if our mix is ancient or recent, we still are that way.

If it's not biological can a dna test identify your race?

A DNA test can identify your ethnicity with many limitations. But they have to define what genes are "European," "African," and "Asian." Just look at what Cypriots get on different DNA tests. On some they get like 60% Middle Eastern, and on others they get 70% European. The reason for that is because different test have different parameters for defining populations. This isn't to say that humans can't be grouped according to different populations; they can. However, they do not correspond to culturally constructed categories we westerners know as "races."

What does that example prove? Even within one, genetically uniforum tightly clustered such as lithuanians you will dumb people and smart people. Intelligence =/= autosomal plotting.

but it supports the notion that it's not genetic.