Number of Slavic toponyms in Greece by region

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"In 1572-1573, the island was granted as a personal domain (hass) to Kilic Ali Pasha, the Kapudan Pasha (the Ottoman Navy's chief admiral). Settlers, including Greeks and Arvanites from the Peloponnese and the Ionian Islands, as well as the descendants of the original inhabitants who had fled to Chios..."

Pandrosos Village

Four km northeast of Pyrgos you'll find the village of Mesogeios and less than a km up the road is the village of Pandrosos which is the highest one in Samos. Their old name was Arvanites (Upper for Pandrosos and Lower for Mesogeia) and they were named after their current named quite recently (40 years ago).

The origin of their old name Arvanites (old Greek term for Albanians) has various explanations. Ep. Stamatiades supports the idea that the first inhabitants of the village were two families of Albanian warriors fighting the Turks under their leader George Kastriotes which after his death were dispersed all over to escape from the Turks. Their only difference from the rest of the Samians was their linguistic idiom.

Nikos Zafeiriou supports the idea that there were more than two families but they were Greek Epirots that their neighboroughs from Pyrgos and Mavratzaioi named them disparagingly "Arvanites" (Albanians). He continues that if they were Albanians there must have been Albanian homonyms in the region while there aren't any. Moreover their linguistic idiom has nothing to do with Albanian but on the contrary it is amazingly similar to the idiom of Tinos island and that is where he identifies the origin of these two villages from. Most of the inhabitants are farmers producing mainly wine and olive oil.

[Scholarios]

Interesting, thanks!

When would they have changed the name?

Also, how do you know it was called "Psili Rachi"?

in 1929 they changed most of those names. It's listed in the online database at Pandektis, I think.

[-Scar-]

Dude, you do not get it. Your little wikipedia maps are WRONG and do NOT represent the Albanian settlements in Morea in 1600. But you can live in denial all you want. You just read something from the 17th Century about Albanians outnumbering Greeks in Arcadia, yet you still go to your little maps. I understand your head is going to explode, but you have to not take these things so personally.

Now please, educate us about Italian influence in your island and how your proudly cucked yourself to the same assholes who conquered Constantinople.





Not that is actually any concern of a bunch of cunts who pray to god they are French or Spanish or whatever. But in fact, since this is a community which talk about 'ancestry" I claimed there was a possibility I had a German ancestor on the maternal side, possibly around 250 years ago. It was just something of a legend in my family. However, DNA results have more or less pointed to that as simply a rumor without any real basis. It is no secret or something, as our obsessive "researcher" here who has searched for my posts from 5 years ago has "uncovered" it with ease. Good work!

But it still won't erase 20% Slavic patrilineal DNA in mainland Greece!



Previously was a mockament, but I have accepted it now. I found that Valtetsi really is an offshoot of Slavovlachia, in customs, costume, music, and appearance. You can see at Arcadia they didn't allow themselves to be raped by Venetians or to be victims of Lab savagery or anything like these little artisans and merchants posting in this thread.

Someone, bring back Malus.

Was the Albanian population in Arcadia temporary?
Season moving?

[Tauromachos]

Was the Albanian population in Arcadia temporary?
Season moving?

Yeah

The spring they moved to Arcadia to work at the Olive and Orange plantations

The winter they returned to Albania to bring money for their families

Same as they do today

[-Scar-]

Yeah

The winter they moved to Arcadia to work at the Olive and Orange plantations

The winter they returned to Albania to bring money for their families

Same as they to today

I think they returned to Argolis and Elis though.

This in 1904. But also some were assimilated before I believe.
Near those villages in Attica, Plato tutored Aristotle.

[Tauromachos]

I think they returned to Argolis and Elis though.

About Argolis being strongly Arvanite i haven't heard or know much about

I think regions in North East Peloponnese North of Argos mainly were and then some other parts in the South East
But not Arcadia and Laconia that much imo

One Island close to Peloponnese named Hydra had Arvanite population.
I have one friend in Greece who is Arvanite and his family is from there.

Sometimes there is indeed a hint
For example in your map i see a place in North Peloponnese named Souli
This is very likely indeed from Souliote Arvanites who came from Epiros and settled there during times of
the Revolutions

But also some were assimilated before I believe

Yes of course

[Coolguy1]

I think they returned to Argolis and Elis though.

This in 1904. But also some were assimilated before I believe.
Near those villages in Attica, Plato tutored Aristotle.

There was never a permanent Albanian presence in Arkadia. The earliest Arvanite settlements were around the border between Messinia, Laconia, and Arcadia and they were used to act as a buffer between the Kingdom of Mystras and the Frankish kingdom in the Peloponnese at the time. These Arvanites then moved to Soulima in Messinia and founded permanent villages.

[Scholarios]

Paloumpa, Arcadia and some surrounding villages are historically Arvanite, even on many of these maps. I believe other areas had an Arvanite presence. My mother's village shares a name with an Arbereshe poet. (village name since changed)

[Coolguy1]

Paloumpa, Arcadia and some surrounding villages are historically Arvanite, even on many of these maps. I believe other areas had an Arvanite presence. My mother's village shares a name with an Arbereshe poet. (village name since changed)

Paloumpa as far as I’m concerned is not an Arvanite village, although at one point it could have been. The name is shared with the village in Epirus “Palampas” which is inhabited by Orthodox Albanian speakers.

[DarknessWin]

I think they returned to Argolis and Elis though.

This in 1904. But also some were assimilated before I believe.
Near those villages in Attica, Plato tutored Aristotle.

This map is a joke , all albanians from Greece left after the war of independence in Turkey.
Fuck you now