Post your Dodecad World9 Mixed oracle mode

**~~Congolese Rice~~** · 10-05-2018, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Markos

Not accurate in the mixed mode oracle

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.6% North_Italian (HGDP) + 36.4% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.6
2 54.7% Cataluna (1000 Genomes) + 45.3% Azerbaijan_Jews @ 0.67
3 53.9% Spanish (Dodecad) + 46.1% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.68
4 82.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.7
5 53.4% Spanish (Dodecad) + 46.6% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.72
6 55.4% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) + 44.6% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.73
7 55.2% Spaniards (Behar) + 44.8% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.74
8 54.7% Spaniards (Behar) + 45.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.74
9 82.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 17.5% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.75
10 53.6% Valencia (1000 Genomes) + 46.4% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.76
11 52.1% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 47.9% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.76
12 51.5% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 48.5% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 0.77
13 54% Uzbekistan_Jews + 46% French_Basque @ 0.79
14 54.1% Valencia (1000 Genomes) + 45.9% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.79
15 58.5% Baleares (1000 Genomes) + 41.5% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.8
16 51.6% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 48.4% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 0.82
17 76.8% Tuscan (HGDP) + 23.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.83
18 76.9% Tuscan (HGDP) + 23.1% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.83
19 53.8% Uzbekistan_Jews + 46.2% Pais_Vasco (1000 Genomes) @ 0.85
20 52.4% Aragon (1000 Genomes) + 47.6% Armenians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.85

I agree, mixed mode is kind of weird, but its expected for me because it lacks arab/north african components to seperate euro from other ethnicities for example.

but percentage wise its very accurate. Except for my black african maybe.. I think my Ethiopian gets misread for Arab/Middle eastern, same with my North african. And since Oromo ethiopians are if im not mistaken blacker than other types of Ethiopians, like Tigray, or Amhara then i dont understand why most gedmatch tests give me only 25% black african percentage wise, but 33%> black african in mixed oracle. very weird.

**Coastal Elite** · 10-06-2018, 12:21 AM

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 64.76
2 Southern 16.91
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 16
4 Amerindian 0.94
5 South_Asian 0.67
6 Siberian 0.36
7 East_Asian 0.36
8 African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.58
2 French (HGDP) 6.49
3 French (Dodecad) 7.67
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.58
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.4
6 German (Dodecad) 11
7 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 11.28
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 11.65
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.75
10 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 11.9
11 Kent (1000 Genomes) 12.03
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.07
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 12.13
14 British (Dodecad) 12.23
15 Spaniards (Behar) 12.63
16 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 12.77
17 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 12.84
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.9
19 Spanish (Dodecad) 13.13
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 13.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 16.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 0.63
2 78.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 21.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.73
3 80.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 19.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.73
4 82.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
5 71% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 29% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 0.75
6 68.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 31.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.77
7 80.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 19.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.79
8 78.4% Irish (Dodecad) + 21.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.79
9 52.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 47.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.8
10 52.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.81
11 83.7% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 16.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.81
12 71.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.82
13 83.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 16.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
14 54.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 45.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.85
15 72% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 0.86
16 84.5% German (Dodecad) + 15.5% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.87
17 83.6% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 16.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.87
18 50.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.87
19 84.8% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 15.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.87
20 71.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.88

Once again Dodecad seems a little off for most Europeans. I have more faith in Eurogenes and MDLP results

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle, Using 4 populations approximation:
Danish + Irish + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.292440

**TheMaestro** · 10-06-2018, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 64.76
2 Southern 16.91
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 16
4 Amerindian 0.94
5 South_Asian 0.67
6 Siberian 0.36
7 East_Asian 0.36
8 African 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.58
2 French (HGDP) 6.49
3 French (Dodecad) 7.67
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.58
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.4
6 German (Dodecad) 11
7 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 11.28
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 11.65
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.75
10 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 11.9
11 Kent (1000 Genomes) 12.03
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.07
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 12.13
14 British (Dodecad) 12.23
15 Spaniards (Behar) 12.63
16 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 12.77
17 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 12.84
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.9
19 Spanish (Dodecad) 13.13
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 13.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 16.7% Samaritians (Behar) @ 0.63
2 78.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 21.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.73
3 80.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 19.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.73
4 82.2% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 17.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.73
5 71% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 29% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 0.75
6 68.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 31.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 0.77
7 80.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 19.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.79
8 78.4% Irish (Dodecad) + 21.6% Cypriots (Behar) @ 0.79
9 52.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 47.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 0.8
10 52.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 47.6% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.81
11 83.7% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 16.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.81
12 71.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28.1% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.82
13 83.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) + 16.6% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.85
14 54.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 45.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 0.85
15 72% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 0.86
16 84.5% German (Dodecad) + 15.5% Druze (HGDP) @ 0.87
17 83.6% Kent (1000 Genomes) + 16.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 0.87
18 50.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.87
19 84.8% Cornwall (1000 Genomes) + 15.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 0.87
20 71.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 28.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 0.88

Once again Dodecad seems a little off for most Europeans. I have more faith in Eurogenes and MDLP results

I wonder how you look like, Irish and Romanian. I like those hybrids, my favorite hybrid would be Irish and Greek or Swedish and Italian, something like Zach Galifianakis.

**~~Hadouken~~** · 10-06-2018, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Once again Dodecad seems a little off for most Europeans. I have more faith in Eurogenes and MDLP results

how is it off ? it says :

50.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.87

which is pretty close to what you are

and you get hungarian as your best fit which it uses as a midpoint of both of your ancestries

**FilhoV** · 10-06-2018, 12:38 AM

Mine

The Distances are very small on this calculator

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 57.51
2 Southern 30.15
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 8.19
4 African 3.37
5 Australasian 0.77

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Murcia (1000 Genomes) 2.27
2 Canarias (1000 Genomes) 3
3 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 4.02
4 Portuguese (Dodecad) 4.23
5 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 4.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.5% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 15.5% Egyptans (Behar) @ 0.87
2 92.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 7.1% Egyptans (Behar) @ 0.98
3 94.9% Andalucia (1000 Genomes) + 5.1% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 1.03
4 87.3% Spanish (Dodecad) + 12.7% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.05
5 95% Andalucia (1000 Genomes) + 5% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 1.09
6 93.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 6.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 1.15
7 92.8% Extremadura (1000 Genomes) + 7.2% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.16
8 87.4% Valencia (1000 Genomes) + 12.6% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.17
9 92.7% Andalucia (1000 Genomes) + 7.3% Moroccans (Behar) @ 1.18
10 85.8% Aragon (1000 Genomes) + 14.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 1.19
11 85.3% Cantabria (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% Yemenese (Behar) @ 1.23
12 93.4% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 6.6% Yemenese (Behar) @ 1.25
13 92.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 7.2% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.25
14 95.2% Andalucia (1000 Genomes) + 4.8% Somali (Dodecad) @ 1.25
15 92.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 7.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 1.26
16 87.9% Canarias (1000 Genomes) + 12.1% Hungarians (Behar) @ 1.28
17 90.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000 Genomes) + 9.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 1.3
18 91.3% Galicia (1000 Genomes) + 8.7% Egyptans (Behar) @ 1.3
19 93.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) + 6.3% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.31
20 92.6% Andalucia (1000 Genomes) + 7.4% Mozabite @ 1.33

**Coastal Elite** · 10-06-2018, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Jonkovich

I wonder how you look like, Irish and Romanian. I like those hybrids, my favorite hybrid would be Irish and Greek or Swedish and Italian, something like Zach Galifianakis.

Kinda like Colin Farrell but taller. Romanians are a wildcard as far as looks. Generally they are a mix of Slavic and Mediterranean influences but some in Transylvania, like my ancestors, have Germanic influences (see Transylvanian Saxon) so I'm not sure if I'm the textbook Romanian. For what it is worth, this way my breakdown from Ancestry DNA update:

Ireland and Scotland
54%
Munster, Ireland
Cork

Eastern Europe and Russia
16%

Greece and the Balkans
14%

Germanic Europe
13%

France
3%

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle, Using 4 populations approximation:
Danish + Irish + South_Italian + West_German @ 2.292440

**Coastal Elite** · 10-06-2018, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Hadouken

how is it off ? it says :

50.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.87

which is pretty close to what you are

and you get hungarian as your best fit which it uses as a midpoint of both of your ancestries

Perhaps, but I think Hungarian is too close to Romanian to be a midpoint between Romanian and Irish. It's also the the 14th match out of 20.

**~~Hadouken~~** · 10-06-2018, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Perhaps, but I think Hungarian is too close to Romanian to be a midpoint between Romanian and Irish. It's also the the 14th match out of 20.

yes thats true also

but why do you say it is 14th match ?

your oracle says :

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.58
2 French (HGDP) 6.49
3 French (Dodecad) 7.67
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.58
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.4
6 German (Dodecad) 11
7 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 11.28
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 11.65
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.75
10 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 11.9
11 Kent (1000 Genomes) 12.03
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.07
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 12.13
14 British (Dodecad) 12.23
15 Spaniards (Behar) 12.63
16 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 12.77
17 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 12.84
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.9
19 Spanish (Dodecad) 13.13
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 13.19

**Coastal Elite** · 10-06-2018, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Hadouken

yes thats true also

but why do you say it is 14th match ?

your oracle says :

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.58
2 French (HGDP) 6.49
3 French (Dodecad) 7.67
4 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 9.58
5 Dutch (Dodecad) 10.4
6 German (Dodecad) 11
7 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 11.28
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 11.65
9 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.75
10 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 11.9
11 Kent (1000 Genomes) 12.03
12 N_Italian (Dodecad) 12.07
13 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 12.13
14 British (Dodecad) 12.23
15 Spaniards (Behar) 12.63
16 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 12.77
17 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 12.84
18 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.9
19 Spanish (Dodecad) 13.13
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 13.19

By 14th match it meant, "50.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 49.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 0.87" . Regardless, Hungarians are cool with me. I usually get "French" for these tests, which was 2nd on this one. Once in a while West German.

**Slavic Italian** · 10-06-2018, 01:36 AM

I don't trust Gedmatch. I think some of the calculations are correct but not all these Jewish readings.

1 Atlantic_Baltic 63.58
2 Southern 18.75
3 Caucasus_Gedrosia 14.81
4 Amerindian 1.26
5 South_Asian 0.96
6 Australasian 0.43
7 African 0.17
8 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French (HGDP) 6.47
2 Hungarians (Behar) 6.55
3 French (Dodecad) 7.3
4 Cataluna (1000 Genomes) 9.49
5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 10.06
6 Spaniards (Behar) 10.58
7 Baleares (1000 Genomes) 10.63
8 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.75
9 Valencia (1000 Genomes) 10.82
10 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 10.96
11 Spanish (Dodecad) 11.2
12 Extremadura (1000 Genomes) 11.3
13 North_Italian (HGDP) 11.43
14 Galicia (1000 Genomes) 11.48
15 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000 Genomes) 11.77
16 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.91
17 Dutch (Dodecad) 11.94
18 Andalucia (1000 Genomes) 12.03
19 Cantabria (1000 Genomes) 12.03
20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 12.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 27.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.01
2 68% Orcadian (HGDP) + 32% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.02
3 67% Orcadian (HGDP) + 33% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.09
4 67.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 32.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.1
5 67.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 32.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.15
6 67.5% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 32.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.16
7 82.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 17.3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.17
8 66.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 33.6% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.18
9 71.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 28.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.19
10 87.6% French (Dodecad) + 12.4% Lezgins (Behar) @ 1.2
11 57.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 42.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.2
12 85.3% German (Dodecad) + 14.7% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.2
13 72.5% Irish (Dodecad) + 27.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.2
14 71.7% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 28.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.21
15 80.9% Orcadian (HGDP) + 19.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.21
16 83.6% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 16.4% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.21
17 71.4% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 28.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.21
18 68% Orcadian (HGDP) + 32% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.22
19 70.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) + 29.1% Ashkenazy_Jews @ 1.22
20 68.3% Irish (Dodecad) + 31.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.22