Are Kazakhs indeed Turkified Mongols?

[Chelubey]

Mongols among Uyghur :
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD...80%D0%BE%D0%B2


Последним крупным этническим компонентом вошедшим в состав современного уйгурского этноса стали могулы (тюркизированные монголы), пришедшие несколькими волнами начиная с XIII в., состоявшие из таких племен как барлас, дуглат, нюгейт, арлат, чурас, байрин и другие.[1] Последняя крупная волна могулов пришла с чагатаидом Саид-ханом в начале XVI в. Изначально говорившие на монгольских языках могулы постепенно ассимилировались местными тюрками, перешли на местный тюркский язык названный чагатайским, приняли ислам (XIV в. Туглук Тимур-хан), стали оседать. Первым племенем уже практически ассимилированным к XVI в. стали дуглаты.
Google translate:
The last major ethnic component that became part of the modern Uyghur ethnos were the Moguls (Turkic Mongols), who came in several waves from the 13th century, consisting of such tribes as Barlas, Duglat, Nyuygt, Arlat, Churas, Bayrin and others. [1] The last large Mogul wave came with Chagataid Said Khan at the beginning of the 16th century. The Moguls, initially speaking Mongolian languages, were gradually assimilated by local Turks, switched to the local Turkic language called Chagatai,

[Bornoz]

Almost all Turkic steppe peoples are genetically mixed with Mongols. There are historical sources saying that a 30,000 Mongol squad has settled in Turkey. Only Kumyks and Karachais have no connection with Mongols.
Interestingly that Mongolian haplogroups appeared among Turkic peoples living west of the Urals mainly not during the Golden Horde, but much later.

Kumyks?

[Chelubey]

Kumyks?

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[Vlatko Vukovic]

I think they're more like Mongolified Turkics.

Then how C-M130 is founded only among Khazaks, of all living Turkic people?

[Leto]

Almost all Turkic steppe peoples are genetically mixed with Mongols. There are historical sources saying that a 30,000 Mongol squad has settled in Turkey. Only Kumyks and Karachais have no connection with Mongols.
Interestingly that Mongolian haplogroups appeared among Turkic peoples living west of the Urals mainly not during the Golden Horde, but much later.

Volga Tatars are around 80% West Eurasian autosomally and the vast majority of their haplogroups are also West Eurasian plus N which is Uralic and Finno-Ugric, not Mongolic. If they have some Mongolian ancestry, it must be very small, like 10% or less.

[Ryuk]

Volga Tatars are around 80% West Eurasian autosomally and the vast majority of their haplogroups are also West Eurasian plus N which is Uralic and Finno-Ugric, not Mongolic. If they have some Mongolian ancestry, it must be very small, like 10% or less.

Y DNA N is very ancient and exist long before the uralic peoples.

[Leto]

Y DNA N is very ancient and exist long before the uralic peoples.

It must have spread with them to Eastern Europe.

[Ryuk]

It must have spread with them to Eastern Europe.

Agree,but asiatic branches more ancient and diverse

[Leto]

Agree,but asiatic branches more ancient and diverse

Well, the point was that it's far from the most common Y-haplogroup in modern Mongolia. It's more Siberian and Turkic (Yakut for example), I guess.

[Ryuk]

Well, the point was that it's far from the most common Y-haplogroup in modern Mongolia. It's more Siberian and Turkic (Yakut for example), I guess.

Exactly,We share same point about it.