New improved World Medieval G25 unscaled calculator

[ph2ter]

The component has a flaw, because it includes two samples who were not pure Celts:

England_Roman:3DT16
England_Roman:6DT3

^^^ Those two were mercenaries/gladiators of at least partially immigrant ancestry.

If ph2ter removes these two samples, your Germanic will probably increase and Celtic will be a bit lower.



And African-Americans can't form a sentence in an African language. Unless you count Ebonics as African.

Nothing helps to increase his Germanic:

[1] "distance%=0.9067"

JKetch_old

CALEDONIAN,46.2
CELTIC,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,8.4
ANGLO-SAXON,7.4
ROMAN-BRITISH,3
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
IBERIAN,1
AQUITANIAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.2503"

JKetch_new

CELTIC,41.8
CALEDONIAN,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,18.6
CELTIBERIAN,3
AQUITANIAN,1.6
IBERIAN,1.4
VIKING-FINN,0.8
JAPANESE,0.4
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2
ROMAN-BRITISH,0.2


Caledonian is Scotland_lba, Celtic is Iron Age England...

[ph2ter]

The same version for:

[1] "distance%=0.5105"

Irish

CELTIC,23.6
CALEDONIAN,19.6
VIKING-BRIT,17.4
ANGLO-SAXON,16
ROMAN-BRITISH,14
NORTH-GERMANIC,7.6
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
BERBER,0.4
IBERIAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.3783"

English

ANGLO-SAXON,30
CELTIC,14
ROMAN-BRITISH,13.8
NORTH-GERMANIC,10.2
CALEDONIAN,9
VIKING-BRIT,8.4
CELTIBERIAN,4.6
AQUITANIAN,4.4
SOUTH-GERMANIC,1.8
IBERIAN,1.4
SCANDO-GERMANIC,1.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,0.4
LUSITANIAN,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2
TARTESSIAN,0.2

[1] "distance%=0.2504"

Swedish

ANGLO-SAXON,19.8
NORTH-GERMANIC,16.8
VIKING-RUS,12.4
VIKING-FINN,10.2
SOUTH-GERMANIC,7.4
SCANDO-GERMANIC,7
VIKING-BRIT,5.8
CELTIC,5.6
CALEDONIAN,3.4
BALTIC,3.2
ROMAN-BRITISH,2.8
CELTIBERIAN,2
SLAVIC,1.2
NORTH_URALIC,1
IBERIAN,0.6
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,0.4
AQUITANIAN,0.2
TARTESSIAN,0.2

[Peterski]

I am 20-30% Celt by blood I guess? East Germans and Austrians have similar amounts of ancient Slav ancestry and they are similarly not at all Slavic.

East Germans are ca. 40% Slavic when it comes to Germans from present-day East Germany (not former territories further east).

Here is nMonte based on K15 spreadsheet:

[1] "distance%=1.1683"

East_German

North_Dutch,50.6
Ukrainian_Belgorod,38.8
Sardinian,10.6 [extra Neolithic farmer, probably this average is based more on southern parts of East Germany?]

Populations for this model:

,North_Sea,Atlantic,Baltic,Eastern_Euro,West_Med,West_Asian,East_Med,Red_Sea,South_Asian,Southeast_Asian,Siberian,Amerindian,Oceanian,Northeast_African,Sub-Saharan
Ukrainian_Belgorod,17.90,15.05,29.66,22.16,3.76,6.41,2.58,0.64,0.68,0.21,0.21,0.31,0.12,0.14,0.17
Belorussian,19.33,17.63,32.02,21.25,3.39,2.48,1.80,0.89,0.48,0.08,0.21,0.10,0.17,0.10,0.06
Ashkenazi,9.89,10.70,6.74,5.17,14.82,13.05,26.61,8.07,1.20,0.60,0.58,0.32,0.24,1.63,0.39
Russian_Smolensk,18.01,18.20,29.95,20.42,4.42,4.38,2.03,0.77,0.83,0.03,0.35,0.26,0.17,0.12,0.06
Southwest_Russian,18.45,15.40,29.69,22.51,3.45,4.85,2.54,0.39,0.54,0.10,0.83,0.60,0.30,0.18,0.16
Danish,36.57,27.76,11.59,10.71,5.99,3.34,2.04,0.29,1.03,0.08,0.09,0.19,0.07,0.19,0.07
North_Dutch,37.62,27.09,12.32,9.19,6.80,3.69,1.51,0.77,0.37,0.04,0.08,0.21,0.20,0.08,0.04
North_German,33.08,27.46,13.41,9.95,6.11,5.24,2.50,0.70,0.83,0.02,0.08,0.22,0.14,0.19,0.08
North_Italian,17.15,23.60,7.11,3.72,21.63,7.02,15.83,3.17,0.36,0.15,0.06,0.03,0.08,0.07,0.03
West_German,34.00,21.84,10.46,8.06,11.13,5.00,6.33,1.02,0.73,0.11,0.18,0.35,0.36,0.31,0.12
Southwest_French,18.23,33.82,8.51,5.22,23.54,1.68,6.12,1.97,0.21,0.04,0.21,0.38,0.02,0.05,0.00
Sardinian,5.54,21.19,3.23,0.15,48.23,1.01,17.48,2.56,0.00,0.00,0.03,0.00,0.32,0.20,0.05
Romanian,15.88,15.98,16.10,10.04,12.48,11.43,14.13,2.50,0.50,0.12,0.26,0.31,0.07,0.14,0.05
Greek,8.81,15.49,11.70,6.91,17.16,12.72,23.47,2.73,0.41,0.05,0.01,0.03,0.36,0.11,0.02
Cyprian,2.08,7.08,3.11,1.81,16.00,19.60,40.16,8.38,0.52,0.05,0.09,0.01,0.28,0.49,0.35
Central_Greek,10.06,13.12,7.23,3.39,17.29,15.74,26.95,5.24,0.16,0.21,0.04,0.12,0.43,0.02,0.00

East_German average:

,North_Sea,Atlantic,Baltic,Eastern_Euro,West_Med,West_Asian,East_Med,Red_Sea,South_Asian,Southeast_Asian,Siberian,Amerindian,Oceanian,Northeast_African,Sub-Saharan
East_German,26.64,21.71,18.07,13.28,10.36,5.16,2.80,1.02,0.57,0.02,0.05,0.15,0.02,0.09,0.04

Edit:

And Austrian average:

,North_Sea,Atlantic,Baltic,Eastern_Euro,West_Med,West_Asian,East_Med,Red_Sea,South_Asian,Southeast_Asian,Siberian,Amerindian,Oceanian,Northeast_African,Sub-Saharan
Austrian,20.59,23.17,18.31,13.24,8.86,6.16,7.21,1.25,0.73,0.03,0.12,0.04,0.13,0.11,0.04

[1] "distance%=1.3089"

Austrian

Russian_Smolensk,41
North_German,31
Southwest_French,15
Cyprian,8.2
Greek,4.8

The same version for:

[1] "distance%=0.5105"

Irish

CELTIC,23.6
CALEDONIAN,19.6
VIKING-BRIT,17.4
ANGLO-SAXON,16
ROMAN-BRITISH,14
NORTH-GERMANIC,7.6
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
BERBER,0.4
IBERIAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=0.3783"

English

ANGLO-SAXON,30
CELTIC,14
ROMAN-BRITISH,13.8
NORTH-GERMANIC,10.2
CALEDONIAN,9
VIKING-BRIT,8.4
CELTIBERIAN,4.6
AQUITANIAN,4.4
SOUTH-GERMANIC,1.8
IBERIAN,1.4
SCANDO-GERMANIC,1.2
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,0.4
LUSITANIAN,0.4
LEVANTINE,0.2
TARTESSIAN,0.2

Looks much better doesn't it?

[Peterski]

Nothing helps to increase his Germanic:

[1] "distance%=0.9067"

JKetch_old

CALEDONIAN,46.2
CELTIC,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,8.4
ANGLO-SAXON,7.4
ROMAN-BRITISH,3
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
IBERIAN,1
AQUITANIAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.2503"

JKetch_new

CELTIC,41.8
CALEDONIAN,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,18.6
CELTIBERIAN,3
AQUITANIAN,1.6
IBERIAN,1.4
VIKING-FINN,0.8
JAPANESE,0.4
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2
ROMAN-BRITISH,0.2

He gets just as much Germanic as he should based on official studies:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/022723v1.full

Quote:

"East England samples are consistent with 30% Anglo-Saxon ancestry on average, with a spread from 20% to 40%, and the Welsh and Scottish samples are consistent with 20% Anglo-Saxon ancestry on average, again with a large spread."

His profile says he is English and Irish. If he was 100% Eastern English, then scoring below 20% Germanic would be a bit weird.

But Welsh and Scottish have 20% on average, with a large spread, so some can have as low as 10%, others as high as 30%.

Also let's remember that the figure of 30% (with individual variation between 20-40) is for Eastern England.

Western and Northern English people have lower amounts of Germanic autosomal ancestry, close to Welsh and Scottish levels.

[J. Ketch]

He gets just as much Germanic as he should based on official studies:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/022723v1.full

Quote:

"East England samples are consistent with 30% Anglo-Saxon ancestry on average, with a spread from 20% to 40%, and the Welsh and Scottish samples are consistent with 20% Anglo-Saxon ancestry on average, again with a large spread."

His profile says he is English and Irish. If he was 100% Eastern English, then scoring below 20% Germanic would be a bit weird.

But Welsh and Scottish have 20% on average, with a large spread, so some can have as low as 10%, others as high as 30%.

Also let's remember that the figure of 30% (with individual variation between 20-40) is for Eastern England.

Western and Northern English people have lower amounts of Germanic autosomal ancestry, close to Welsh and Scottish levels.

I wouldn’t try to read too much into individual results, I am much more Insular than both my parents in G25 (My mother is near the middle of the Dutch cluster and my father is in the Norwegian cluster, while I’m pretty much only in the Scottish and Irish clusters).

[Lucas]

Is this a Cornish sample? Celtic 82 seems to be very high for an English person.

I choose it randomly in G25 spreadsheet. It seems Cornish samples are named like that in G25, so it is from another English region.
You can check other English samples from original sheet.

[Not a Cop]

Double post.

[Not a Cop]

Grandparents:

North-Russian

VIKING-RUS,34.2
SLAVIC,27.8
BALTIC,25.6
NORTH_URALIC,7.6
CELTIBERIAN,1.4
GERMANIC,1.4
VIKING-FINN,1.2
JAPANESE,0.6
ANATOLIAN,0.2


3/4 S&C Russian, 1/4 Vilno Polish

SLAVIC,56.6
BALTIC,25
VIKING-RUS,6.6
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,3
ARIAN,1.6
ALANIC,1.2
HIMALAYAN,1.2
GRECO-ROMAN,1
CELTIC,0.8
IBERIAN,0.6
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.6
HUNNIC,0.4
TURKIC,0.4
ANATOLIAN,0.2
CARIBBEAN,0.2
GERMANIC,0.2
PACIFIC,0.2
PERSIAN,0.2


Baltic German+ 1/4 Russian Pskov, 1/4 Belarussian Polish

VIKING-RUS,39.6
SLAVIC,26.4
GERMANIC,12
VIKING-FINN,7
BALTIC,5.6
CELTIC,4.2
NORTH_URALIC,1
ARIAN,0.8
GRECO-ROMAN,0.6
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.6
AFRICAN,0.4
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,0.4
JAPANESE,0.4
PERSIAN,0.4
HUNNIC,0.2
IBERIAN,0.2
TARTESSIAN,0.2

Without Viking

SLAVIC,42.2
GERMANIC,36
BALTIC,9.8
CELTIC,6.8
NORTH_URALIC,3.6
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,0.8
CELTIBERIAN,0.6
TARTESSIAN,0.2

Kursk/Volga

SLAVIC,66.2
BALTIC,20.4
VIKING-RUS,2.8
HUNNIC,2
CELTIC,1.8
GERMANIC,1.2
ALANIC,1
GRECO-ROMAN,0.8
AVARIC,0.6
NORTH_URALIC,0.6
HIMALAYAN,0.4
NORTH-AMERICA,0.4
TURKIC,0.4
ANATOLIAN,0.2
BERBER,0.2
CELTIBERIAN,0.2
JAPANESE,0.2
LEVANTINE,0.2
PACIFIC,0.2
SOUTH-AMERICA,0.2

Bonus - Not a cop as a mixture of his grandparents:

"distance%=0.7317"

Not a cop

Paternat GM,49
Maternal GF,38
Paternal GF,11.4
Maternal GM,1.6

[Coastal Elite]

[1] "distance%=0.7027"

DacoCeltic

ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,30
CELTIC,25.6
GERMANIC,21.2
GRECO-ROMAN,11
CELTIBERIAN,3
SLAVIC,2.2
VIKING-RUS,2.2
IBERIAN,1.8
AQUITANIAN,1.2
ALANIC,1
HUNNIC,0.6
JAPANESE,0.2

Thanks. Some east and west Hallstatt. Love the .2 Japanese.

[Grace O'Malley]

Nothing helps to increase his Germanic:

[1] "distance%=0.9067"

JKetch_old

CALEDONIAN,46.2
CELTIC,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,8.4
ANGLO-SAXON,7.4
ROMAN-BRITISH,3
CELTIBERIAN,1.2
IBERIAN,1
AQUITANIAN,0.6
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2


[1] "distance%=1.2503"

JKetch_new

CELTIC,41.8
CALEDONIAN,32
NORTH-GERMANIC,18.6
CELTIBERIAN,3
AQUITANIAN,1.6
IBERIAN,1.4
VIKING-FINN,0.8
JAPANESE,0.4
GRECO-ROMAN,0.2
ROMAN-BRITISH,0.2


Caledonian is Scotland_lba, Celtic is Iron Age England...

Could someone run my details through this? Thanks

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Grace_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.064488,0.052003, 0.036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.000479


,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Grace_unscaled,0.0122,0.0134,0.0171,0.0161,0.0118 ,0.0062,0.0007,0.0027,0.0024,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0031,-0.0076,-0.0071,0.0221,0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0035,0.0003,0.0063,0.0057,0.0059,-0.0047,0.009,-0.0004