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    Central_Euro 7.23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    I've noticed I get around 2 percent south Asian on almost every Eurogenes calculator, yet 23andme say's I am 100 percent Euro, is this South Asian likely legit?
    Yes and no. 23andme says you're 100% European because you're 100% ethnic groups that are considered European. But these ethnic groups will not be 100% West Eurasian, let alone 100% WHG or whatever. So you're not recently South Asian, but you may have a small amount of South Asian-type DNA in you from times of yore.

    Example: 100% Russian = 100% European, but ethnic Russians are 1-5% EEA (usually 1-2%, but there are outliers).
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    Population

    Arabian: 1.64 Pct
    Armenian: 0.98 Pct
    Basque: 3.50 Pct
    Central_Euro: 3.71 Pct
    East_African: 3.74 Pct
    East_Central_Euro: 2.76 Pct
    East_Med: 1.33 Pct
    Eastern_Euro: 4.12 Pct
    Fennoscandian: 2.05 Pct
    French: 5.31 Pct
    Iberian: 27.02 Pct
    Italian: 12.75 Pct
    North_African: 5.98 Pct
    North_Atlantic: 6.38 Pct
    North_Sea: 9.16 Pct
    Northeast_African: 0.48 Pct
    Volga-Ural: 0.86 Pct
    West_Caucasian: 1.43 Pct
    West_Med: 6.81 Pct

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    Arabian: 10.60 Pct

    Armenian: 10.12 Pct

    East_Balkan: 5.38 Pct

    East_Med: 21.53 Pct

    French: 1.15 Pct

    Italian: 2.54 Pct

    Near_Eastern: 16.10 Pct

    North_Caucasian: 10.76 Pct

    South_Central_Asian: 9.96 Pct

    West_Caucasian: 8.89 Pct

    West_Med: 2.98 Pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Yes and no. 23andme says you're 100% European because you're 100% ethnic groups that are considered European. But these ethnic groups will not be 100% West Eurasian, let alone 100% WHG or whatever. So you're not recently South Asian, but you may have a small amount of South Asian-type DNA in you from times of yore.

    Example: 100% Russian = 100% European, but ethnic Russians are 1-5% EEA (usually 1-2%, but there are outliers).
    Exactly and not to mention that 23andme's processing removes small segments which can be associated with older ancestry by smoothing https://www.23andme.com/ancestry-composition-guide/

    We use another computational process, called the smoother, to smooth this raw SVM output. The smoother uses a version of a well-known mathematical tool called a Hidden Markov Model to correct, or “smooth,” two kinds of errors. Hidden Markov Models are used to analyze sequential data, like biological sequences or recorded speech. As an example, suppose we had three ancestry populations: X, Y, and Z. An example of output from the SVM might look like this:

    chromosome 1, parent 1: X - X - X - Z - Z - Z - Y - Z

    chromosome 1, parent 2: Z - Z - Z - X - X - X - X - X

    The first kind of error the smoother corrects is an unusual assignment in the middle of a run of similar assignments. In the first line above, there's a run of Z's, interrupted by a single Y: Z — Z — Z — Y — Z. It's possible that the lone Y was a close call between Y and Z that went the wrong way. If that were the case, the smoother could correct it to Z — Z — Z — Z — Z.


    and like you mentioned a 100% European is not 100% W Eurasian in the sense that W Eurasian is Stuttgart. WHG and Steppe had some Siberian admixture, not to mention the E Eurasian carried by the Huns and other Iron Age Central Asian groups.

    The SOUTH ASIAN in calculators is based on current populations in S Asia which includes Balochis and Brahuis. Europeans can show it either because those groups share Caucasus related with Europeans or it could be actually S Indian related which some Europeans carry because of a great grandparent having relations with Indians during the British colonial days

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    Amerindian 21.44 Pct
    Arabian -
    Armenian 1.64 Pct
    Basque 0.85 Pct
    Central_African 0.11 Pct
    Central_Euro 2.77 Pct
    East_African 0.39 Pct
    East_Asian 0.95 Pct
    East_Balkan -
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    East_Central_Euro 3.31 Pct
    East_Med 1.86 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 4.40 Pct
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian 17.79 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 10.33 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African 3.90 Pct
    North_Atlantic 8.72 Pct
    North_Caucasian 1.11 Pct
    North_Sea 0.21 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic 1.02 Pct
    Pygmy 0.60 Pct
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African 16.49 Pct
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 2.12 Pct

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    Basque 1.16 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.18 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 7.14 Pct
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    East_Central_Euro 23.18 Pct
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 16.18 Pct
    Fennoscandian 7.65 Pct
    French 1.26 Pct
    Iberian 5.09 Pct
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    Italian 9.87 Pct
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    North_Atlantic 6.88 Pct
    North_Caucasian 3.25 Pct
    North_Sea 9.22 Pct
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    Volga-Ural 1.62 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 0.31 Pct
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    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 7.54 Pct
    Armenian 5.78 Pct
    Basque 1.26 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.41 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian 0.57 Pct
    East_Balkan 1.65 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 4.90 Pct
    East_Med 14.86 Pct
    Eastern_Euro -
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    French 4.90 Pct
    Iberian 10.78 Pct
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    Italian 11.19 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 11.85 Pct
    North_African 2.47 Pct
    North_Atlantic 3.91 Pct
    North_Caucasian 7.35 Pct
    North_Sea 3.28 Pct
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    Pygmy -
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    South_Asian 0.71 Pct
    South_Central_Asian 0.22 Pct
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.35 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 0.83 Pct
    West_Med 1.17 Pct

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPREEEEEME View Post
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 7.54 Pct
    Armenian 5.78 Pct
    Basque 1.26 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.41 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian 0.57 Pct
    East_Balkan 1.65 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 4.90 Pct
    East_Med 14.86 Pct
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French 4.90 Pct
    Iberian 10.78 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 11.19 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 11.85 Pct
    North_African 2.47 Pct
    North_Atlantic 3.91 Pct
    North_Caucasian 7.35 Pct
    North_Sea 3.28 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian 0.71 Pct
    South_Central_Asian 0.22 Pct
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.35 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 0.83 Pct
    West_Med 1.17 Pct
    Can you post Eurogenes K15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    Can you post Eurogenes K15?
    Eurogenes EUTest K15 V2(GEDMatch genesis):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 24.27
    2 Atlantic 18.62
    3 West_Asian 12.65
    4 North_Sea 10.92
    5 West_Med 10.74
    6 Red_Sea 9.01
    7 Baltic 6.33
    8 Eastern_Euro 3.03
    9 South_Asian 1.79
    10 Northeast_African 1.19
    11 Siberian 1.19

    Eurogenes K13 (out of interest):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 32.16
    2 North_Atlantic 21.83
    3 West_Med 14.61
    4 West_Asian 10.28
    5 Baltic 9.35
    6 Red_Sea 7.20
    7 South_Asian 1.79
    8 Siberian 1.68

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