Indian middle caste averages by State (S Indian, W Eurasian, and E Eurasian)

[Thambi]

You created this map yourself? I'm surprised Kerala stands out a little from their neighbouring states.

How does Sri Lanka average?

Yeah i made these maps

Kerala nairs are supposedly slightly mixed with kerala brahmins. but even then, if you look at otherkerala averages on harappa spreadsheet, christians, muslims all have elevated caucasus as well. muslims form 27% of kerala and 18% are christians. even they are slightly western shifted. its mostly from west asian trading and all from the past.

there are 3 srilankan groups. 1st are sinhalese that get 51% S indian, 28% baloch, 6% EE, 4% NE euro, and 5% med(portuguese).
next sinhalese get 56% S indian, 31% baloch, 5% EE, 1% NE Euro, and no med.
srilankan tamils get 58% S indian, 33% baloch, 3% EE, no ne euro or med.

[Zoro]

Isn't the East Eurasian a bit high? My guess is that the East Eurasian isn't purely EE but includes some West Eurasian due to having some ANE admixture.

By the way, can you give some examples of Indian middle castes?

Actually most of the S. Indian component in Harrapa is E. Eurasian because Malayans score 79% of it. Indians in general carry a ton of E. Eurasian of the SE Asian type. Here are some of the top S. Indian scorers from the Harappa spreadsheet

Population	S-Indian
paniya	83.99
irula	83.22
pulliyar	83.21
malayan	79.06
malayan	75.49
bhunjia	73.39
santhal	73.25
dhurwa	73.2
mala	72.93
tn-dalit	72.65
santhal	72.41
ap-mala	72.2
asur	72.09
nihali	71.66
kurumba	70.26
hakkipikki	70.22
north-kannadi	70.13
madiga	69.83
ho	69.5
mawasi	69.35
ap-madiga	69.27
kharia	69.06
savara	68.71
chenchu	68.63
tamil-vishwakarma	68.01
kharia	67.68
sakilli	67.59
bhil	67.12
chamar	66.47
gond	65.87
kamsali	65.55
gadaba	64.79
vysya	64.11
sahariya	63.75

[Thambi]

what happened to the format on this page? the font is small for no reason

[Mingle]

Actually most of the S. Indian component in Harrapa is E. Eurasian because Malayans score 79% of it. Indians in general carry a ton of E. Eurasian of the SE Asian type. Here are some of the top S. Indian scorers from the Harappa spreadsheet

Population	S-Indian
paniya	83.99
irula	83.22
pulliyar	83.21
malayan	79.06
malayan	75.49
bhunjia	73.39
santhal	73.25
dhurwa	73.2
mala	72.93
tn-dalit	72.65
santhal	72.41
ap-mala	72.2
asur	72.09
nihali	71.66
kurumba	70.26
hakkipikki	70.22
north-kannadi	70.13
madiga	69.83
ho	69.5
mawasi	69.35
ap-madiga	69.27
kharia	69.06
savara	68.71
chenchu	68.63
tamil-vishwakarma	68.01
kharia	67.68
sakilli	67.59
bhil	67.12
chamar	66.47
gond	65.87
kamsali	65.55
gadaba	64.79
vysya	64.11
sahariya	63.75

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Technically it does fall under the East Eurasian branch, but it's distinct from Mongoloid East Eurasian.

[Zoro]

Technically it does fall under the East Eurasian branch, but it's distinct from Mongoloid East Eurasian.

Agreed if you mean the E. Siberian or NE Asian kind of E. Eurasian. This graph from Eurasiandna.com shows Indians still have a decent amount of E/SE Asian combo. Too bad it doesn't have S. Indians though. I'm guessing if that graph was for just NE Asian then those Indians would score even less. In that case the northern ones would probably score more than the southern ones.

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[Thambi]

Isn't the East Eurasian a bit high? My guess is that the East Eurasian isn't purely EE but includes some West Eurasian due to having some ANE admixture.

By the way, can you give some examples of Indian middle castes?

Breakdown of each component

Baloch


Caucasian


Northeast European

[Thambi]

North East Asian


Siberian/American/Beringian


Southeast Asian

[SharpFork]

Why is Haryana so North-West European?

[Thambi]

Why is Haryana so North-West European?

Its northeast european btw, not northwest.

Jatts from haryana have the most ‘aryan’ like admix. They likely are more steppe derived rather than iran neolithic or aasi derived. Theyre a mystery group. Haryana jatts have second highest euro on average in the region after tajiks.

[SharpFork]

Its northeast european btw, not northwest.

Jatts from haryana have the most ‘aryan’ like admix. They likely are more steppe derived rather than iran neolithic or aasi derived. Theyre a mystery group. Haryana jatts have second highest euro on average in the region after tajiks.

Even Pakistani groups are less euro/steppe?