South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Pribislav]

Pure Serbz.

Of course. Dalmatian, Lika and Banija Serbs which I posted and all are similar, and they are similar to you and HungryLion.

[Jana]

Of course. Dalmatian, Lika and Banija Serbs which I posted and all are similar, and they are similar to you and HungryLion.

They cluster closer to Croats than to Serbs because like all diaspora groups they absorbed native Croatian population.

[vbnetkhio]

They cluster closer to Croats than to Serbs because like all diaspora groups they absorbed native Croatian population.

the "HungryLion cluster" doesn't seem to be pulled towards any group of Croats, it seems to be germanic admixture.
a cluster of Serbs from west Serbia is also close to them

[Jana]

the "HungryLion cluster" doesn't seem to be pulled towards any group of Croats, it seems to be germanic admixture.
a cluster of Serbs from west Serbia is also close to them

I mentioned how German soldiers and officials also settled military frontier. Keep in mind Kajkavian Croats are also NW shifted.
Banovina for example was originally Kajkavian-speaking region.

[CommonSense]

Some of these dudes plot closer to Ayetooey, who is half British, than to his Dalmatian Serb father, so there obviously not in anyway typical Krajina Serbs.

[vbnetkhio]

Keep in mind Kajkavian Croats are also NW shifted.
Banovina for example was originally Kajkavian-speaking region.

i have Kajkavian results too.
the HungryLion cluster could barely be a mix of the absolutely most western plotting Montenegrin outlier and the absolutely most western plotting Croat outlier, who is a Burgenland Croat, so very probably mixed with Austrians. what are the odds.

it could be those German soldiers.. or some other historical contact between Serbs and Germanics. there is a lot of various Germanic y-dna haplogroups in the Balkans.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_...shtml#Germanic

this is a Serb from Serbia academic kit with Germanic admixture, but also very paleo Balkanic. doesn't plot too far from HungryLion.

Kit WP4899669

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.83
2 Baltic 25.22
3 West_Med 15.54
4 East_Med 12.78
5 West_Asian 10.19
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 Siberian 0.96
8 Amerindian 0.74
9 East_Asian 0.09
10 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.05
2 Hungarian 7.11
3 Austrian 7.45
4 Romanian 8.82
5 East_German 9.93
6 West_German 10.5
7 Moldavian 10.71
8 Croatian 11.44
9 Bulgarian 11.84
10 South_Dutch 12.11
11 French 12.61
12 North_German 15.62
13 North_Italian 16.41
14 South_Polish 16.9
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.32
16 Portuguese 17.46
17 Southeast_English 17.66
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.75
19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.76
20 Danish 18.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Romanian + 32.4% North_Dutch @ 1.08
2 69.4% Romanian + 30.6% Norwegian @ 1.15
3 69.5% Romanian + 30.5% Irish @ 1.19
4 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Norwegian @ 1.27
5 68.6% Romanian + 31.4% Orcadian @ 1.29
6 60.8% Bulgarian + 39.2% North_Dutch @ 1.32
7 64.1% Romanian + 35.9% North_German @ 1.37
8 70.3% Romanian + 29.7% West_Scottish @ 1.38
9 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Danish @ 1.41
10 57% Bulgarian + 43% North_German @ 1.49
11 62.9% Bulgarian + 37.1% Irish @ 1.55
12 60.6% Bulgarian + 39.4% Danish @ 1.6
13 61.8% Bulgarian + 38.2% Orcadian @ 1.6
14 63.8% Bulgarian + 36.2% West_Scottish @ 1.76
15 77.5% Austrian + 22.5% Central_Greek @ 1.82
16 75.6% Austrian + 24.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.9
17 64.3% Serbian + 35.7% West_German @ 1.91
18 85% Austrian + 15% Cyprian @ 1.92
19 67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Southeast_English @ 1.93
20 68.7% Romanian + 31.3% Swedish @ 1.95

[Dušan]

Some of these dudes plot closer to Ayetooey, who is half British, than to his Dalmatian Serb father, so there obviously not in anyway typical Krajina Serbs.

I think that Krajina Serb average is closer to my result than to these ones.

[CommonSense]

I think that Krajina Serb average is closer to my result than to these ones.

You're in the normal range if I compare you to my matches. Tbh, even some Dalmatian Croats I match with are closer to you than these guys are.

[Jana]

i have Kajkavian results too.
the HungryLion cluster could barely be a mix of the absolutely most western plotting Montenegrin outlier and the absolutely most western plotting Croat outlier, who is a Burgenland Croat, so very probably mixed with Austrians. what are the odds.

it could be those German soldiers.. or some other historical contact between Serbs and Germanics. there is a lot of various Germanic y-dna haplogroups in the Balkans.
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/maps_...shtml#Germanic

this is a Serb from Serbia academic kit with Germanic admixture, but also very paleo Balkanic. doesn't plot too far from HungryLion.

Kit WP4899669

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.83
2 Baltic 25.22
3 West_Med 15.54
4 East_Med 12.78
5 West_Asian 10.19
6 Red_Sea 1.61
7 Siberian 0.96
8 Amerindian 0.74
9 East_Asian 0.09
10 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 6.05
2 Hungarian 7.11
3 Austrian 7.45
4 Romanian 8.82
5 East_German 9.93
6 West_German 10.5
7 Moldavian 10.71
8 Croatian 11.44
9 Bulgarian 11.84
10 South_Dutch 12.11
11 French 12.61
12 North_German 15.62
13 North_Italian 16.41
14 South_Polish 16.9
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.32
16 Portuguese 17.46
17 Southeast_English 17.66
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.75
19 Spanish_Cataluna 17.76
20 Danish 18.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.6% Romanian + 32.4% North_Dutch @ 1.08
2 69.4% Romanian + 30.6% Norwegian @ 1.15
3 69.5% Romanian + 30.5% Irish @ 1.19
4 62.7% Bulgarian + 37.3% Norwegian @ 1.27
5 68.6% Romanian + 31.4% Orcadian @ 1.29
6 60.8% Bulgarian + 39.2% North_Dutch @ 1.32
7 64.1% Romanian + 35.9% North_German @ 1.37
8 70.3% Romanian + 29.7% West_Scottish @ 1.38
9 67.4% Romanian + 32.6% Danish @ 1.41
10 57% Bulgarian + 43% North_German @ 1.49
11 62.9% Bulgarian + 37.1% Irish @ 1.55
12 60.6% Bulgarian + 39.4% Danish @ 1.6
13 61.8% Bulgarian + 38.2% Orcadian @ 1.6
14 63.8% Bulgarian + 36.2% West_Scottish @ 1.76
15 77.5% Austrian + 22.5% Central_Greek @ 1.82
16 75.6% Austrian + 24.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.9
17 64.3% Serbian + 35.7% West_German @ 1.91
18 85% Austrian + 15% Cyprian @ 1.92
19 67.1% Romanian + 32.9% Southeast_English @ 1.93
20 68.7% Romanian + 31.3% Swedish @ 1.95

Burgerland Croats for sure have Austrian admixture. And probably Hungarian as well. I know some of them and individually few look typically German.
In my opinion Krajina Serbs are genetically diverse. Some appear typically Serb or even Montenegrin, some appear typically Bosnian or not different from Croats and some are West-Central Euro shifted.

I observe similar genetic variety in Dalmatia as well.
Some Dalmatian Croats are very Slavic shifted (in direction of Ukraine), some are quite western and appear central euro like and some are very Balkan shifted and can even approach Bulgarians.

[Dušan]

They cluster closer to Croats than to Serbs because like all diaspora groups they absorbed native Croatian population.

Krajina was deserted and uninhabited due to Ottoman-Austrian wars.

There are no native medieval population from this region in our genetics.