South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Jana]

yeah, he could pass as an average Croat. but so could some Serbs from Serbia who are more Germanic or Slavic than average.
he could also have actual Croat ancestry, why not.

i think Pribislav didn't present him as an average Serb, but as one in the most northern Serbian zone.

Pribislav is always posting Serbs who plot closest to Croats and than trying to present them as pure Serbs to claim we are Serbs.
It would be similar if I would post mostly Zagorje Croats who plot with Czechs and than claim Czechs descend from Croats.

There are def. Krajina Serbs who plot like Serbs (Ayetooney's dad, Dušan), but there are plenty with quite suspicious results.
Dušan for example plots quite north, but not in direction of Croats. He is more eastern than we are and his phenotype as well look like a Slavic shifted Serb.

Pribislav never posted his results and he looks like a Croat. I am pretty sure he is mixed, but since he is a Četnik it is painful for him.

[Pribislav]

They are not more western than Croats, because that is average only and not a single person plots exactly there. Interesting how Pribislav continues to post these genetic non-Serbs.
And Serbs dare to call Croats fake nation.

All these genetic results just proves lies and manipulation of Serbian ''nationalism''. Banija Serbs are mixed mongrels. Not suprising.

As Krajina Serb Pribislav is interested for their genetic, this last train for pure Krajina Serb autosomal because with time they will be more and more mixed with other Serbs.
Result of Serb with father from Banija or Lika and mother from Montenegro or Niš means nothing for understanding of autosomal of Banija or Lika Serbs. Y dna is different, even y dna test of person with Krajina Serb father and Asian mother make sense for Krajina Serb y dna understanding.

I got all these results from Hungry Lion except for Ozren guy. HL is very interested for Banija Serb autosomal, because he is one of them.

[Pribislav]

Is he 34% Baltic on K13? Just curious.

Currently I don't have his K13, but I will try to find.

[vbnetkhio]

i found a dozen kits of Serbs from Croatia or West Bosnia, Croats from Mostar region, and South Montenegrins.



light purple - Herz. Croats i had before
dark purple - new ones

light orange - Cro & B&H Serbs i had before (2 outliers, a Lika Serb with increased South Asian and a B.Krajina Serb which plots like a Montenegrin.)
dark orange - new ones

light green - Montenegrins i had before (one outlier, which was more Slavic than the rest)
dark green - new ones

if somebody wants them, message me.

[Pribislav]

i found a dozen kits of Serbs from Croatia or West Bosnia, Croats from Mostar region, and South Montenegrins.



light purple - Herz. Croats i had before
dark purple - new ones

light orange - Cro & B&H Serbs i had before (2 outliers, a Lika Serb with increased South Asian and a B.Krajina Serb which plots like a Montenegrin.)
dark orange - new ones

light green - Montenegrins i had before (one outlier, which was more Slavic than the rest)
dark green - new ones

if somebody wants them, message me.

From where exactly is Serb who ploting more northern than Hungarian average and can you post his K13 and K12b dodecad?

[CommonSense]

i found a dozen kits of Serbs from Croatia or West Bosnia, Croats from Mostar region, and South Montenegrins.



light purple - Herz. Croats i had before
dark purple - new ones

light orange - Cro & B&H Serbs i had before (2 outliers, a Lika Serb with increased South Asian and a B.Krajina Serb which plots like a Montenegrin.)
dark orange - new ones

light green - Montenegrins i had before (one outlier, which was more Slavic than the rest)
dark green - new ones

if somebody wants them, message me.

Where is that Serb who plots with Magyars from and are you certain he doesn't have foreign admix? I've never seen anyone plot that far away. Same goes with that Montenegrin who plots next to Ford.

And how much South Asian does that Lika Serb score? Such an eastern pull would imply he had around 4%, which is something that people who are 1/8 Gypsy would score.

[vbnetkhio]

Where is that Serb who plots with Magyars from and are you certain he doesn't have foreign admix? I've never seen anyone plot that far away. Same goes with that Montenegrin who plots next to Ford.

And how much South Asian does that Lika Serb score? Such an eastern pull would imply he had around 4%, which is something that people who are 1/8 Gypsy would score.

From where exactly is Serb who ploting more northern than Hungarian average and can you post his K13 and K12b dodecad?

i sent you PMs with more info.

Serb who plots with Magyars

Population
North_Atlantic 31.43 Pct
Baltic 31.84 Pct
West_Med 13.96 Pct
West_Asian 9.09 Pct
East_Med 11.60 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.34 Pct
Siberian 1.61 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.10 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 2.86
2 Croatian 6.14
3 Austrian 6.65
4 Moldavian 6.81
5 Serbian 7.16
6 East_German 7.58
7 South_Polish 10.77
8 Romanian 11.26
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.48
10 Ukrainian 12.46
11 West_German 13.7
12 Bulgarian 13.95
13 Polish 14.74
14 South_Dutch 15.13
15 North_German 16.14
16 Southwest_Russian 16.18
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.46
18 North_Swedish 17
19 Russian_Smolensk 17.44
20 French 17.44

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.8% Hungarian + 11.2% Bulgarian @ 2.26
2 86.8% Hungarian + 13.2% Romanian @ 2.31
3 80.3% Hungarian + 19.7% Serbian @ 2.32
4 97.1% Hungarian + 2.9% Abhkasian @ 2.37
5 96.5% Hungarian + 3.5% Balkar @ 2.4
6 97.1% Hungarian + 2.9% Georgian @ 2.41
7 97% Hungarian + 3% Armenian @ 2.42
8 96.7% Hungarian + 3.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.42
9 96.7% Hungarian + 3.3% Adygei @ 2.43
10 96.5% Hungarian + 3.5% Kabardin @ 2.44
11 96.9% Hungarian + 3.1% Ossetian @ 2.46
12 81.6% Hungarian + 18.4% Moldavian @ 2.47
13 97.2% Hungarian + 2.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.47
14 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Kumyk @ 2.47
15 95.3% Hungarian + 4.7% Central_Greek @ 2.48
16 96.6% Hungarian + 3.4% Turkish @ 2.48
17 94.1% Hungarian + 5.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.49
18 97.2% Hungarian + 2.8% Assyrian @ 2.49
19 96.9% Hungarian + 3.1% Cyprian @ 2.49
20 96.8% Hungarian + 3.2% Chechen @ 2.52

Population
Gedrosia 6.79 Pct
Siberian 0.29 Pct
Northwest_African 0.31 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.30 Pct
Atlantic_Med 29.96 Pct
North_European 43.47 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.06 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 16.81 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Lika Serb there was one with 1.49 south asian, so i thought it was him plotting there. but it's actually this one. he has high West Asian and East Med, like he is Thracian(not Illyrian)+Slavic. he is similar to some more Slavic Bulgarians. you can see him on previuos plots, he is an outlier from other Lika Serbs and from all Serbs.

North_Sea 11.45
Atlantic 16.49
Baltic 23.24
Eastern_Euro 12.81
West_Med 8.9
West_Asian 11.19
East_Med 12.51
Red_Sea 2.67
South_Asian 0.65
Southeast_Asian 0
Siberian 0
Amerindian 0
Oceanian 0.1
Northeast_African 0
Sub_Saharan 0

that most Slavic Montenegrin i had before (academic sample)


Kit MN4421166

Population
North_Atlantic 26.63 Pct
Baltic 30.05 Pct
West_Med 17.16 Pct
West_Asian 8.13 Pct
East_Med 13.93 Pct
Red_Sea 1.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.56 Pct
East_Asian 1.05 Pct
Siberian 0.24 Pct
Amerindian 1.12 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.83
2 Moldavian 5.6
3 Romanian 7.07
4 Croatian 7.12
5 Hungarian 7.42
6 Bulgarian 9.31
7 Austrian 10.79
8 East_German 11.91
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.79
10 South_Polish 14.26
11 Ukrainian 14.86
12 West_German 16.73
13 Greek_Thessaly 17.73
14 Polish 17.82
15 South_Dutch 18.15
16 French 18.47
17 Southwest_Russian 18.59
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.91
19 North_Italian 19.13
20 Russian_Smolensk 20.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% Croatian + 24.6% Tuscan @ 1.82
2 58.8% Ukrainian + 41.2% Tuscan @ 1.9
3 78.5% Croatian + 21.5% West_Sicilian @ 1.98
4 62.9% Ukrainian + 37.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.25
5 50.2% Romanian + 49.8% Croatian @ 2.3
6 77.9% Croatian + 22.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.37
7 81.2% Croatian + 18.8% South_Italian @ 2.4
8 69.2% Serbian + 30.8% Croatian @ 2.41
9 72.4% Croatian + 27.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.42
10 52.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 47.2% Tuscan @ 2.54
11 83.7% Croatian + 16.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.55
12 79.2% Moldavian + 20.8% North_Italian @ 2.56
13 83.8% Serbian + 16.2% Ukrainian @ 2.57
14 69% Romanian + 31% Ukrainian @ 2.59
15 50.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.7% North_Italian @ 2.59
16 60.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 39.2% Tuscan @ 2.59
17 74.1% Croatian + 25.9% North_Italian @ 2.59
18 72.8% Romanian + 27.2% Polish @ 2.62
19 64% South_Polish + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.65
20 64.1% Serbian + 35.9% Moldavian @ 2.65

new Most Slavic Montenegrin #1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.48
2 North_Atlantic 27.03
3 West_Med 15.27
4 East_Med 13.77
5 West_Asian 10.42
6 Siberian 0.79
7 East_Asian 0.2
8 Amerindian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.47
2 Serbian 5.52
3 Croatian 5.74
4 Hungarian 6.75
5 Romanian 8.76
6 Austrian 10.8
7 Bulgarian 10.85
8 East_German 11.67
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.02
10 South_Polish 12.23
11 Ukrainian 13.02
12 Polish 16
13 Southwest_Russian 16.32
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.48
15 West_German 17.51
16 Russian_Smolensk 18.12
17 Estonian_Polish 18.71
18 South_Dutch 19.01
19 Belorussian 19.18
20 Greek_Thessaly 19.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 1.98
2 58.6% Romanian + 41.4% South_Polish @ 2.1
3 60.3% Romanian + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.39
4 68.9% South_Polish + 31.1% Central_Greek @ 2.41
5 72% South_Polish + 28% South_Italian @ 2.5
6 65.3% Romanian + 34.7% Polish @ 2.5
7 73.8% Romanian + 26.2% Lithuanian @ 2.64
8 62.1% South_Polish + 37.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.66
9 62.1% Croatian + 37.9% Romanian @ 2.67
10 77.1% Serbian + 22.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.68
11 66.7% Ukrainian + 33.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.68
12 60% Bulgarian + 40% Polish @ 2.69
13 68.3% Romanian + 31.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.72
14 73.3% Romanian + 26.7% Estonian @ 2.75
15 67.6% Croatian + 32.4% Bulgarian @ 2.76
16 69.5% Romanian + 30.5% Belorussian @ 2.76
17 72.7% Serbian + 27.3% Ukrainian @ 2.78
18 68.2% South_Polish + 31.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.8
19 77.2% Serbian + 22.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.81
20 68.5% Bulgarian + 31.5% Estonian @ 2.83

new Most Slavic Montenegrin #2
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.46
2 North_Atlantic 25.48
3 East_Med 15.57
4 West_Med 14.67
5 West_Asian 7.45
6 Siberian 1.89
7 Amerindian 0.54
8 Red_Sea 0.48
9 Oceanian 0.24
10 Sub-Saharan 0.14
11 Northeast_African 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 5.24
2 Croatian 6.3
3 Serbian 6.41
4 Hungarian 7.98
5 Romanian 9.38
6 Bulgarian 11.07
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.02
8 South_Polish 12.44
9 Austrian 12.56
10 Ukrainian 12.83
11 East_German 13.2
12 Southwest_Russian 15.71
13 Polish 16
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.28
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.81
16 Estonian_Polish 18.06
17 Belorussian 18.57
18 West_German 19.22
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.72
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% Estonian @ 2.39
2 74% Ukrainian + 26% Italian_Jewish @ 2.54
3 63.1% Bulgarian + 36.9% Belorussian @ 2.55
4 69.4% Ukrainian + 30.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.66
5 53.4% Greek_Thessaly + 46.6% Estonian @ 2.69
6 62.5% Bulgarian + 37.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.71
7 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Tuscan @ 2.72
8 70.1% South_Polish + 29.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.76
9 67.2% Romanian + 32.8% Belorussian @ 2.83
10 66.6% Romanian + 33.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.84
11 51.5% Belorussian + 48.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
12 63.8% Southwest_Russian + 36.2% West_Sicilian @ 2.86
13 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Finnish @ 2.97
14 53.9% Bulgarian + 46.1% Ukrainian @ 2.98
15 63.4% Romanian + 36.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3
16 74.2% Ukrainian + 25.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3
17 53.1% Bulgarian + 46.9% South_Polish @ 3.01
18 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Lithuanian @ 3.01
19 68.7% Bulgarian + 31.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04
20 74.8% South_Polish + 25.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.04

[Jana]

^^^^ First one plot and has gedmatch like a fully ethnic Hungarian.

[vbnetkhio]

^^^^ First one plot and has gedmatch like a fully ethnic Hungarian.

this is the main Hungarian cluster with all those academic samples added. so the Hungarian average is pretty accurate.



i noticed everybody still likes this old Tolan map the most, because it's easy to orientate because of the large symbols, i often read posts like "i plot near the M of Moldovian", etc. so i'm gonna post it more now.

[Leto]

Those two Montenegrins score very high Baltic (32-33 percent)!