South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

**Leto** · 11-07-2019, 05:05 PM

Nice find, @Mingle!

**Mingle** · 11-12-2019, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Surname is Olteanu so probably from Oltenia (South Romania):

Code:

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	23.88
2	North_Atlantic	23.53
3	East_Med	19.66
4	West_Med	15.47
5	West_Asian	11.88
6	Red_Sea	2.34
7	Siberian	1.65
8	Oceanian	0.89
9	Amerindian	0.7

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Romanian	2.65
2	Bulgarian	3.14
3	Serbian	6.15
4	Greek_Thessaly	10.54
5	Moldavian	11.92
6	Hungarian	14
7	Croatian	14.82
8	Tuscan	15.75
9	Italian_Abruzzo	16.21
10	North_Italian	16.46
11	Austrian	16.9
12	Central_Greek	17.08
13	West_Sicilian	18.08
14	East_Sicilian	18.36
15	East_German	18.9
16	Ashkenazi	19.66
17	West_German	20.12
18	French	20.53
19	Ukrainian_Lviv	21.06
20	South_Italian	21.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	60.8%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	39.2%	Southwest_Russian	@	1.46
2	 	64.9%	Central_Greek	+	35.1%	Finnish	@	1.88
3	 	95.3%	Romanian	+	4.7%	Lebanese_Druze	@	1.89
4	 	65.4%	Central_Greek	+	34.6%	Estonian	@	1.96
5	 	95.6%	Romanian	+	4.4%	Iranian_Jewish	@	1.97
6	 	61%	Italian_Abruzzo	+	39%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	1.99
7	 	95.7%	Romanian	+	4.3%	Kurdish_Jewish	@	2
8	 	95.6%	Romanian	+	4.4%	Palestinian	@	2.04
9	 	95.7%	Romanian	+	4.3%	Assyrian	@	2.04
10	 	95.6%	Romanian	+	4.4%	Jordanian	@	2.05
11	 	95.9%	Romanian	+	4.1%	Lebanese_Christian	@	2.05
12	 	95.3%	Romanian	+	4.7%	Lebanese_Muslim	@	2.06
13	 	96.7%	Romanian	+	3.3%	Yemenite_Jewish	@	2.06
14	 	69.8%	Hungarian	+	30.2%	Cyprian	@	2.06
15	 	95.8%	Romanian	+	4.2%	Georgian_Jewish	@	2.07
16	 	95.2%	Romanian	+	4.8%	Azeri	@	2.08
17	 	86.6%	Serbian	+	13.4%	Assyrian	@	2.09
18	 	94.8%	Romanian	+	5.2%	Turkish	@	2.1
19	 	95.5%	Romanian	+	4.5%	Syrian	@	2.11
20	 	95.9%	Romanian	+	4.1%	Samaritan	@	2.11

Code:

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Sea	18.34
2	East_Med	16.7
3	Baltic	14.36
4	Atlantic	13.66
5	West_Asian	10.99
6	West_Med	10.86
7	Eastern_Euro	10.66
8	Red_Sea	2.53
9	Siberian	0.89
10	Oceanian	0.66
11	Amerindian	0.35

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Romanian	4.38
2	Serbian	5.89
3	Bulgarian	6.19
4	Greek_Thessaly	10.36
5	Moldavian	10.85
6	Hungarian	12.3
7	Greek	12.35
8	Austrian	13.19
9	Croatian	13.19
10	Tuscan	14.74
11	Italian_Abruzzo	15.23
12	Ashkenazi	15.58
13	North_Italian	16.03
14	Central_Greek	16.11
15	East_German	16.69
16	East_Sicilian	17.07
17	West_Sicilian	17.38
18	Ukrainian_Lviv	18.31
19	French	18.58
20	West_German	18.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	70.9%	Hungarian	+	29.1%	Cyprian	@	2.25
2	 	59.2%	Central_Greek	+	40.8%	Finnish	@	2.67
3	 	75.1%	Hungarian	+	24.9%	Lebanese_Christian	@	2.7
4	 	72%	Hungarian	+	28%	Lebanese_Muslim	@	2.73
5	 	61.8%	Central_Greek	+	38.2%	Estonian	@	2.75
6	 	75.3%	Hungarian	+	24.7%	Kurdish_Jewish	@	2.78
7	 	86.8%	Serbian	+	13.2%	Assyrian	@	2.83
8	 	87.7%	Serbian	+	12.3%	Kurdish_Jewish	@	2.89
9	 	87.6%	Serbian	+	12.4%	Lebanese_Druze	@	2.95
10	 	87.6%	Serbian	+	12.4%	Iranian_Jewish	@	2.96
11	 	74.1%	Hungarian	+	25.9%	Assyrian	@	3.05
12	 	75.2%	Hungarian	+	24.8%	Lebanese_Druze	@	3.07
13	 	87.3%	Serbian	+	12.7%	Armenian	@	3.08
14	 	87.3%	Serbian	+	12.7%	Georgian_Jewish	@	3.08
15	 	87.9%	Serbian	+	12.1%	Lebanese_Christian	@	3.14
16	 	86.1%	Serbian	+	13.9%	Lebanese_Muslim	@	3.18
17	 	74.7%	Hungarian	+	25.3%	Samaritan	@	3.27
18	 	75.2%	Hungarian	+	24.8%	Iranian_Jewish	@	3.32
19	 	56.3%	Hungarian	+	43.7%	Ashkenazi	@	3.33
20	 	57.1%	Hungarian	+	42.9%	Central_Greek	@	3.34

Some more calculators:

Code:

Eurogenes K36

Amerindian	0.20 Pct
Arabian	3.09 Pct
Armenian	2.38 Pct
Basque	0.96 Pct
Central_African	-    
Central_Euro	4.94 Pct
East_African	-    
East_Asian	-    
East_Balkan	6.71 Pct
East_Central_Asian	-    
East_Central_Euro	12.96 Pct
East_Med	7.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro	7.56 Pct
Fennoscandian	0.86 Pct
French	5.25 Pct
Iberian	10.69 Pct
Indo-Chinese	-    
Italian	14.67 Pct
Malayan	-    
Near_Eastern	2.30 Pct
North_African	-    
North_Atlantic	3.28 Pct
North_Caucasian	8.76 Pct
North_Sea	5.18 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Oceanian	0.50 Pct
Omotic	-    
Pygmy	-    
Siberian	-    
South_Asian	-    
South_Central_Asian	-    
South_Chinese	-    
Volga-Ural	0.94 Pct
West_African	-    
West_Caucasian	0.27 Pct
West_Med	1.32 Pct

Code:

HarappaWorld

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	34.54
2	Caucasian	23.98
3	Mediterranean	23.67
4	Baloch	8.19
5	SW-Asian	6.48
6	Siberian	1.48
7	Papuan	0.72
8	American	0.57
9	Beringian	0.37

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	romanian-a (behar)	3.34
2	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	5.08
3	tuscan (hgdp)	13.59
4	tuscan (1000genomes)	13.63
5	tuscan (hapmap)	13.78
6	italian (hgdp)	14.1
7	hungarian (behar)	15.95
8	slovenian (xing)	17.43
9	ashkenazi (harappa)	17.91
10	french (hgdp)	19.38
11	ashkenazy-jew (behar)	21.12
12	spaniard (behar)	22.71
13	spaniard (1000genomes)	23.87
14	n-european (xing)	23.97
15	utahn-white (1000genomes)	24.4
16	turk-aydin (hodoglugil)	25.14
17	ukranian (yunusbayev)	25.15
18	utahn-white (hapmap)	25.15
19	british (1000genomes)	26.16
20	sephardic-jew (behar)	27.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	65.8%	utahn-white (1000genomes)	+	34.2%	druze (hgdp)	@	2.25
2	 	57.1%	hungarian (behar)	+	42.9%	ashkenazy-jew (behar)	@	2.27
3	 	69.6%	hungarian (behar)	+	30.4%	cypriot (behar)	@	2.37
4	 	96.4%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.6%	brahui (hgdp)	@	2.49
5	 	96.3%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.7%	makrani (hgdp)	@	2.51
6	 	66.3%	n-european (xing)	+	33.7%	druze (hgdp)	@	2.56
7	 	96.4%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.6%	balochi (hgdp)	@	2.57
8	 	53%	hungarian (behar)	+	47%	ashkenazi (harappa)	@	2.57
9	 	95.7%	romanian-a (behar)	+	4.3%	algeria (henn2012)	@	2.57
10	 	95.9%	romanian-a (behar)	+	4.1%	morocco-n (henn2012)	@	2.61
11	 	96.1%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.9%	mozabite (hgdp)	@	2.62
12	 	96.2%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.8%	saharawi (henn2012)	@	2.62
13	 	96%	romanian-a (behar)	+	4%	moroccan (behar)	@	2.67
14	 	96.3%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.7%	tunisia (henn2012)	@	2.68
15	 	95.9%	romanian-a (behar)	+	4.1%	libya (henn2012)	@	2.69
16	 	54.9%	slovenian (xing)	+	45.1%	ashkenazy-jew (behar)	@	2.69
17	 	64.3%	british (1000genomes)	+	35.7%	druze (hgdp)	@	2.71
18	 	94%	romanian-a (behar)	+	6%	puerto-rican (1000genomes)	@	2.79
19	 	96.6%	romanian-a (behar)	+	3.4%	morocco-s (henn2012)	@	2.8
20	 	60.2%	n-european (xing)	+	39.8%	cypriot (behar)	@	2.8

Code:

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_European	33.69
2	Atlantic_Med	25.71
3	Caucasus	25.52
4	Southwest_Asian	6.9
5	Gedrosia	5.33
6	Siberian	1.74
7	Southeast_Asian	0.7
8	Northwest_African	0.4

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Romanians (Behar)	4.77
2	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	5.29
3	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	6.19
4	O_Italian (Dodecad)	13.62
5	Hungarians (Behar)	16.39
6	Greek (Dodecad)	16.85
7	N_Italian (Dodecad)	17.43
8	TSI30 (Metspalu)	18.27
9	Tuscan (HGDP)	18.5
10	C_Italian (Dodecad)	18.65
11	North_Italian (HGDP)	20.45
12	German (Dodecad)	21.18
13	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	23.43
14	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	23.43
15	Sicilian (Dodecad)	23.44
16	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	23.66
17	French (Dodecad)	23.75
18	French (HGDP)	23.85
19	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	24.21
20	Dutch (Dodecad)	25.87

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	64.6%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	35.4%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	1.92
2	 	68.9%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	31.1%	Cypriots (Behar)	@	2.34
3	 	71.6%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	28.4%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	2.44
4	 	59%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	41%	Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar)	@	2.64
5	 	65.9%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	34.1%	Russian (HGDP)	@	2.7
6	 	59.3%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	40.7%	Ashkenazi (Dodecad)	@	2.99
7	 	72.2%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	27.8%	Russian_B (Behar)	@	2.99
8	 	50.7%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	49.3%	Greek (Dodecad)	@	3.01
9	 	64.6%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	35.4%	Sephardic_Jews (Behar)	@	3.03
10	 	72.9%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	27.1%	Russian (HGDP)	@	3.05
11	 	59.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	40.9%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	@	3.1
12	 	65.3%	C_Italian (Dodecad)	+	34.7%	Russian_B (Behar)	@	3.13
13	 	59.9%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	40.1%	Russian (Dodecad)	@	3.15
14	 	84.8%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	+	15.2%	French (HGDP)	@	3.15
15	 	56.8%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	43.2%	Polish (Dodecad)	@	3.17
16	 	57.8%	S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad)	+	42.2%	Mixed_Slav (Dodecad)	@	3.19
17	 	87.5%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	+	12.5%	Cornwall (1000Genomes)	@	3.25
18	 	87.7%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	+	12.3%	British (Dodecad)	@	3.27
19	 	87.9%	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	+	12.1%	Argyll (1000Genomes)	@	3.3
20	 	68.8%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	31.2%	Ukranians (Yunusbayev)	@	3.31

**Mingle** · 11-12-2019, 02:56 PM

Romanian with half his ancestry from Moldova (Suceava, Botosani) and half from Wallachia (Gorj, Prahova). He thinks one of his grandparents may have partial ancestry from Bucovina (likely referring to North Bucovina here) if it means anything.

Code:

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	31.5
2	North_Atlantic	25.45
3	West_Med	13.01
4	East_Med	11.95
5	West_Asian	8.99
6	Red_Sea	4.09
7	Siberian	2.63
8	South_Asian	1.91
9	Sub-Saharan	0.27
10	East_Asian	0.19

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Moldavian	4.37
2	Croatian	6.32
3	Serbian	6.38
4	Hungarian	7.31
5	Romanian	9.63
6	Ukrainian_Lviv	11.45
7	Austrian	11.56
8	Bulgarian	11.87
9	East_German	12.34
10	South_Polish	12.44
11	Ukrainian	13.07
12	Polish	15.84
13	Southwest_Russian	15.89
14	Ukrainian_Belgorod	16.19
15	Russian_Smolensk	17.63
16	West_German	18.19
17	Estonian_Polish	18.19
18	Tatar	18.3
19	Belorussian	18.72
20	Kargopol_Russian	19.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	76.3%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	23.7%	Sephardic_Jewish	@	2.59
2	 	78.2%	Serbian	+	21.8%	Erzya	@	2.74
3	 	71.2%	Romanian	+	28.8%	East_Finnish	@	2.86
4	 	77%	Serbian	+	23%	Kargopol_Russian	@	2.88
5	 	55.5%	Estonian	+	44.5%	East_Sicilian	@	2.92
6	 	69.9%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	30.1%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	2.93
7	 	54.6%	Estonian	+	45.4%	Central_Greek	@	3.01
8	 	59.7%	Russian_Smolensk	+	40.3%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.03
9	 	78%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	22%	Tunisian_Jewish	@	3.08
10	 	59%	Estonian_Polish	+	41%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.1
11	 	57.5%	Kargopol_Russian	+	42.5%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.13
12	 	71.6%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	28.4%	East_Sicilian	@	3.13
13	 	58.3%	Estonian	+	41.7%	South_Italian	@	3.17
14	 	67.7%	Romanian	+	32.3%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.2
15	 	73.8%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	26.2%	South_Italian	@	3.22
16	 	71.3%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	28.7%	West_Sicilian	@	3.24
17	 	52.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	47.7%	Finnish	@	3.24
18	 	76.6%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	23.4%	Italian_Jewish	@	3.24
19	 	55.2%	Finnish	+	44.8%	Central_Greek	@	3.25
20	 	78%	South_Polish	+	22%	Syrian	@	3.26

Code:

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Sea	19.42
2	Baltic	18.77
3	Eastern_Euro	15.52
4	Atlantic	13.77
5	West_Med	9.23
6	East_Med	8.96
7	West_Asian	7.58
8	Red_Sea	3.93
9	Siberian	1.5
10	South_Asian	1.27
11	Sub-Saharan	0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Moldavian	4.17
2	Croatian	6.26
3	Serbian	6.5
4	Hungarian	6.74
5	Austrian	9.06
6	Romanian	9.07
7	Ukrainian_Lviv	10.12
8	South_Polish	10.87
9	Ukrainian	11
10	East_German	11.42
11	Bulgarian	11.84
12	Polish	13.43
13	Ukrainian_Belgorod	13.87
14	Russian_Smolensk	14.15
15	Southwest_Russian	14.3
16	Finnish	15.81
17	Southwest_Finnish	15.86
18	Kargopol_Russian	16.05
19	East_Finnish	16.18
20	Belorussian	16.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	75.5%	Serbian	+	24.5%	Erzya	@	2.95
2	 	95%	Moldavian	+	5%	Saudi	@	3.24
3	 	68.8%	Ukrainian	+	31.2%	Ashkenazi	@	3.26
4	 	65.2%	Romanian	+	34.8%	East_Finnish	@	3.3
5	 	73.8%	Serbian	+	26.2%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.33
6	 	95.6%	Moldavian	+	4.4%	Yemenite_Jewish	@	3.36
7	 	69.2%	South_Polish	+	30.8%	Ashkenazi	@	3.37
8	 	70%	Moldavian	+	30%	Serbian	@	3.43
9	 	63.3%	Serbian	+	36.7%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	3.44
10	 	94.9%	Moldavian	+	5.1%	Bedouin	@	3.54
11	 	71%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	29%	Ashkenazi	@	3.58
12	 	71.2%	Serbian	+	28.8%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.59
13	 	71.9%	Serbian	+	28.1%	Southwest_Russian	@	3.59
14	 	65.8%	Serbian	+	34.2%	Ukrainian	@	3.6
15	 	65.3%	Romanian	+	34.7%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.61
16	 	75.5%	Ukrainian	+	24.5%	Sephardic_Jewish	@	3.62
17	 	69.3%	Ukrainian	+	30.7%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.62
18	 	95.4%	Moldavian	+	4.6%	Palestinian	@	3.63
19	 	95.5%	Moldavian	+	4.5%	Egyptian	@	3.65
20	 	95.5%	Moldavian	+	4.5%	Jordanian	@	3.7

Code:

Eurogenes K36

Amerindian	-    
Arabian	-    
Armenian	-    
Basque	-    
Central_African	-    
Central_Euro	9.60 Pct
East_African	-    
East_Asian	-    
East_Balkan	4.65 Pct
East_Central_Asian	-    
East_Central_Euro	14.39 Pct
East_Med	4.67 Pct
Eastern_Euro	11.38 Pct
Fennoscandian	4.75 Pct
French	3.34 Pct
Iberian	9.23 Pct
Indo-Chinese	-    
Italian	11.24 Pct
Malayan	-    
Near_Eastern	1.48 Pct
North_African	0.26 Pct
North_Atlantic	4.84 Pct
North_Caucasian	5.77 Pct
North_Sea	6.90 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Oceanian	-    
Omotic	-    
Pygmy	-    
Siberian	-    
South_Asian	-    
South_Central_Asian	2.39 Pct
South_Chinese	-    
Volga-Ural	1.59 Pct
West_African	-    
West_Caucasian	2.83 Pct
West_Med	0.67 Pct

Code:

HarappaWorld

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	40.77
2	Mediterranean	22.13
3	Caucasian	19.09
4	Baloch	9.45
5	SW-Asian	5.12
6	Siberian	2.1
7	Beringian	1.06
8	NE-Asian	0.19
9	Papuan	0.09

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	romanian-a (behar)	8.02
2	hungarian (behar)	9.33
3	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	10.31
4	slovenian (xing)	10.77
5	french (hgdp)	16.32
6	n-european (xing)	17.75
7	ukranian (yunusbayev)	18.18
8	italian (hgdp)	18.42
9	utahn-white (1000genomes)	18.7
10	utahn-white (hapmap)	19.02
11	tuscan (hgdp)	20.43
12	tuscan (hapmap)	20.47
13	british (1000genomes)	20.54
14	tuscan (1000genomes)	20.58
15	orcadian (hgdp)	22.53
16	mordovian (yunusbayev)	23
17	spaniard (behar)	23.56
18	belorussian (behar)	24.28
19	russian (behar)	24.29
20	spaniard (1000genomes)	24.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	81.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.1%	turkish (harappa)	@	2.03
2	 	84.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.2%	iraqi-mandaean (harappa)	@	2.06
3	 	83.1%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.9%	iraqi-arab (harappa)	@	2.09
4	 	83.5%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.5%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	2.09
5	 	84.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.1%	iranian-jew (behar)	@	2.15
6	 	84.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.2%	iraq-jew (behar)	@	2.22
7	 	77.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	22.6%	turk-aydin (hodoglugil)	@	2.23
8	 	83%	hungarian (behar)	+	17%	kurd (harappa)	@	2.24
9	 	81.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.6%	turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)	@	2.26
10	 	84.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.3%	assyrian (harappa)	@	2.28
11	 	83.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.6%	palestinian (harappa)	@	2.32
12	 	83.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.3%	lebanese-muslim (haber)	@	2.42
13	 	82.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	17.6%	azeri (harappa)	@	2.44
14	 	83.3%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.7%	iranian (behar)	@	2.44
15	 	81.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.2%	turk (behar)	@	2.48
16	 	84.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.1%	azerbaijan-jew (behar)	@	2.5
17	 	84.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.3%	georgia-jew (behar)	@	2.51
18	 	83.1%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.9%	lebanese (behar)	@	2.56
19	 	83.5%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.5%	syrian (behar)	@	2.56
20	 	80.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	19.1%	turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)	@	2.56

Code:

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_European	40.52
2	Atlantic_Med	24.35
3	Caucasus	18.6
4	Gedrosia	6.83
5	Southwest_Asian	6.03
6	Siberian	2.07
7	East_African	0.66
8	East_Asian	0.62
9	South_Asian	0.31

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Hungarians (Behar)	8.95
2	Romanians (Behar)	10.51
3	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	12.11
4	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	12.97
5	German (Dodecad)	14.09
6	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	18.63
7	Dutch (Dodecad)	20.02
8	French (Dodecad)	21.18
9	O_Italian (Dodecad)	21.34
10	French (HGDP)	21.55
11	Ukranians (Yunusbayev)	22.33
12	Kent (1000Genomes)	22.37
13	CEU30 (1000Genomes)	22.4
14	N_Italian (Dodecad)	22.49
15	English (Dodecad)	22.59
16	Polish (Dodecad)	23.01
17	Swedish (Dodecad)	23.51
18	British_Isles (Dodecad)	23.76
19	Norwegian (Dodecad)	24.33
20	Argyll (1000Genomes)	24.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	84.3%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.7%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.66
2	 	84.7%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.3%	Iranians (Behar)	@	2.77
3	 	84.6%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.4%	Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar)	@	2.8
4	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Kurd (Dodecad)	@	2.82
5	 	84.8%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.2%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.83
6	 	84%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.85
7	 	85.9%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.1%	Iraq_Jews (Behar)	@	2.87
8	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Iranian_Jews (Behar)	@	2.91
9	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Iranian (Dodecad)	@	2.97
10	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Kurds (Yunusbayev)	@	3.03
11	 	56.9%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	43.1%	Russian (HGDP)	@	3.15
12	 	85.4%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.6%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	3.16
13	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar)	@	3.3
14	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Assyrian (Dodecad)	@	3.31
15	 	63.1%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	36.9%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	3.36
16	 	83.2%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16.8%	Turks (Behar)	@	3.4
17	 	64.2%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	35.8%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	3.42
18	 	83.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16.9%	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	@	3.44
19	 	55.4%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	44.6%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	3.45
20	 	85.9%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.1%	Georgia_Jews (Behar)	@	3.48

**vbnetkhio** · 11-12-2019, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Surname is Olteanu so probably from Oltenia (South Romania):

such a surname could have rather been given to a man who migrated from Oltenia into another area. it doesn't make sense that someone living in Oltenia takes the surname Olteanu.

for these samples we surely know they are from Oltenia, they were taken in the mountain village Tismana in Gorj province, which is in Oltenia.
TT8822564 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G408
HM1819885 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G421
NW7039713 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G428
GE3813125 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G429
YV6490417 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G434

**Mingle** · 11-12-2019, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

such a surname could have rather been given to a man who migrated from Oltenia into another area. it doesn't make sense that someone living in Oltenia takes the surname Olteanu.

for these samples we surely know they are from Oltenia, they were taken in the mountain village Tismana in Gorj province, which is in Oltenia.
TT8822564 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G408
HM1819885 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G421
NW7039713 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G428
GE3813125 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G429
YV6490417 Romanian_Gorj_Tismana_G434

That's a good point. The reason I thought it was Oltenia (besides the surname) was because when I looked up a few people online with that surname, they were from Oltenia. It was a small sample size but still. That combined with his southern results made me think he was Oltenian. Though his results aren't rare by any means and could be from a neighboring region such as Muntenia or southern Transylvania among some other possibilities. Anyways, I asked him for confirmation, so we'll see if he's Oltenian or not if he decides to reply.

**WeirdLookingFellow** · 11-12-2019, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Romanian with half his ancestry from Moldova (Suceava, Botosani) and half from Wallachia (Gorj, Prahova). He thinks one of his grandparents may have partial ancestry from Bucovina (likely referring to North Bucovina here) if it means anything.

Code:

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	31.5
2	North_Atlantic	25.45
3	West_Med	13.01
4	East_Med	11.95
5	West_Asian	8.99
6	Red_Sea	4.09
7	Siberian	2.63
8	South_Asian	1.91
9	Sub-Saharan	0.27
10	East_Asian	0.19

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Moldavian	4.37
2	Croatian	6.32
3	Serbian	6.38
4	Hungarian	7.31
5	Romanian	9.63
6	Ukrainian_Lviv	11.45
7	Austrian	11.56
8	Bulgarian	11.87
9	East_German	12.34
10	South_Polish	12.44
11	Ukrainian	13.07
12	Polish	15.84
13	Southwest_Russian	15.89
14	Ukrainian_Belgorod	16.19
15	Russian_Smolensk	17.63
16	West_German	18.19
17	Estonian_Polish	18.19
18	Tatar	18.3
19	Belorussian	18.72
20	Kargopol_Russian	19.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	76.3%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	23.7%	Sephardic_Jewish	@	2.59
2	 	78.2%	Serbian	+	21.8%	Erzya	@	2.74
3	 	71.2%	Romanian	+	28.8%	East_Finnish	@	2.86
4	 	77%	Serbian	+	23%	Kargopol_Russian	@	2.88
5	 	55.5%	Estonian	+	44.5%	East_Sicilian	@	2.92
6	 	69.9%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	30.1%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	2.93
7	 	54.6%	Estonian	+	45.4%	Central_Greek	@	3.01
8	 	59.7%	Russian_Smolensk	+	40.3%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.03
9	 	78%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	22%	Tunisian_Jewish	@	3.08
10	 	59%	Estonian_Polish	+	41%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.1
11	 	57.5%	Kargopol_Russian	+	42.5%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.13
12	 	71.6%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	28.4%	East_Sicilian	@	3.13
13	 	58.3%	Estonian	+	41.7%	South_Italian	@	3.17
14	 	67.7%	Romanian	+	32.3%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.2
15	 	73.8%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	26.2%	South_Italian	@	3.22
16	 	71.3%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	28.7%	West_Sicilian	@	3.24
17	 	52.3%	Greek_Thessaly	+	47.7%	Finnish	@	3.24
18	 	76.6%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	23.4%	Italian_Jewish	@	3.24
19	 	55.2%	Finnish	+	44.8%	Central_Greek	@	3.25
20	 	78%	South_Polish	+	22%	Syrian	@	3.26

Code:

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Sea	19.42
2	Baltic	18.77
3	Eastern_Euro	15.52
4	Atlantic	13.77
5	West_Med	9.23
6	East_Med	8.96
7	West_Asian	7.58
8	Red_Sea	3.93
9	Siberian	1.5
10	South_Asian	1.27
11	Sub-Saharan	0.04

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Moldavian	4.17
2	Croatian	6.26
3	Serbian	6.5
4	Hungarian	6.74
5	Austrian	9.06
6	Romanian	9.07
7	Ukrainian_Lviv	10.12
8	South_Polish	10.87
9	Ukrainian	11
10	East_German	11.42
11	Bulgarian	11.84
12	Polish	13.43
13	Ukrainian_Belgorod	13.87
14	Russian_Smolensk	14.15
15	Southwest_Russian	14.3
16	Finnish	15.81
17	Southwest_Finnish	15.86
18	Kargopol_Russian	16.05
19	East_Finnish	16.18
20	Belorussian	16.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	75.5%	Serbian	+	24.5%	Erzya	@	2.95
2	 	95%	Moldavian	+	5%	Saudi	@	3.24
3	 	68.8%	Ukrainian	+	31.2%	Ashkenazi	@	3.26
4	 	65.2%	Romanian	+	34.8%	East_Finnish	@	3.3
5	 	73.8%	Serbian	+	26.2%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.33
6	 	95.6%	Moldavian	+	4.4%	Yemenite_Jewish	@	3.36
7	 	69.2%	South_Polish	+	30.8%	Ashkenazi	@	3.37
8	 	70%	Moldavian	+	30%	Serbian	@	3.43
9	 	63.3%	Serbian	+	36.7%	Ukrainian_Lviv	@	3.44
10	 	94.9%	Moldavian	+	5.1%	Bedouin	@	3.54
11	 	71%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	29%	Ashkenazi	@	3.58
12	 	71.2%	Serbian	+	28.8%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.59
13	 	71.9%	Serbian	+	28.1%	Southwest_Russian	@	3.59
14	 	65.8%	Serbian	+	34.2%	Ukrainian	@	3.6
15	 	65.3%	Romanian	+	34.7%	Kargopol_Russian	@	3.61
16	 	75.5%	Ukrainian	+	24.5%	Sephardic_Jewish	@	3.62
17	 	69.3%	Ukrainian	+	30.7%	Italian_Abruzzo	@	3.62
18	 	95.4%	Moldavian	+	4.6%	Palestinian	@	3.63
19	 	95.5%	Moldavian	+	4.5%	Egyptian	@	3.65
20	 	95.5%	Moldavian	+	4.5%	Jordanian	@	3.7

Code:

Eurogenes K36

Amerindian	-    
Arabian	-    
Armenian	-    
Basque	-    
Central_African	-    
Central_Euro	9.60 Pct
East_African	-    
East_Asian	-    
East_Balkan	4.65 Pct
East_Central_Asian	-    
East_Central_Euro	14.39 Pct
East_Med	4.67 Pct
Eastern_Euro	11.38 Pct
Fennoscandian	4.75 Pct
French	3.34 Pct
Iberian	9.23 Pct
Indo-Chinese	-    
Italian	11.24 Pct
Malayan	-    
Near_Eastern	1.48 Pct
North_African	0.26 Pct
North_Atlantic	4.84 Pct
North_Caucasian	5.77 Pct
North_Sea	6.90 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Oceanian	-    
Omotic	-    
Pygmy	-    
Siberian	-    
South_Asian	-    
South_Central_Asian	2.39 Pct
South_Chinese	-    
Volga-Ural	1.59 Pct
West_African	-    
West_Caucasian	2.83 Pct
West_Med	0.67 Pct

Code:

HarappaWorld

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	NE-Euro	40.77
2	Mediterranean	22.13
3	Caucasian	19.09
4	Baloch	9.45
5	SW-Asian	5.12
6	Siberian	2.1
7	Beringian	1.06
8	NE-Asian	0.19
9	Papuan	0.09

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	romanian-a (behar)	8.02
2	hungarian (behar)	9.33
3	bulgarian (yunusbayev)	10.31
4	slovenian (xing)	10.77
5	french (hgdp)	16.32
6	n-european (xing)	17.75
7	ukranian (yunusbayev)	18.18
8	italian (hgdp)	18.42
9	utahn-white (1000genomes)	18.7
10	utahn-white (hapmap)	19.02
11	tuscan (hgdp)	20.43
12	tuscan (hapmap)	20.47
13	british (1000genomes)	20.54
14	tuscan (1000genomes)	20.58
15	orcadian (hgdp)	22.53
16	mordovian (yunusbayev)	23
17	spaniard (behar)	23.56
18	belorussian (behar)	24.28
19	russian (behar)	24.29
20	spaniard (1000genomes)	24.76

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	81.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.1%	turkish (harappa)	@	2.03
2	 	84.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.2%	iraqi-mandaean (harappa)	@	2.06
3	 	83.1%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.9%	iraqi-arab (harappa)	@	2.09
4	 	83.5%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.5%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	2.09
5	 	84.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.1%	iranian-jew (behar)	@	2.15
6	 	84.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.2%	iraq-jew (behar)	@	2.22
7	 	77.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	22.6%	turk-aydin (hodoglugil)	@	2.23
8	 	83%	hungarian (behar)	+	17%	kurd (harappa)	@	2.24
9	 	81.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.6%	turk-kayseri (hodoglugil)	@	2.26
10	 	84.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.3%	assyrian (harappa)	@	2.28
11	 	83.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.6%	palestinian (harappa)	@	2.32
12	 	83.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.3%	lebanese-muslim (haber)	@	2.42
13	 	82.4%	hungarian (behar)	+	17.6%	azeri (harappa)	@	2.44
14	 	83.3%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.7%	iranian (behar)	@	2.44
15	 	81.8%	hungarian (behar)	+	18.2%	turk (behar)	@	2.48
16	 	84.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.1%	azerbaijan-jew (behar)	@	2.5
17	 	84.7%	hungarian (behar)	+	15.3%	georgia-jew (behar)	@	2.51
18	 	83.1%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.9%	lebanese (behar)	@	2.56
19	 	83.5%	hungarian (behar)	+	16.5%	syrian (behar)	@	2.56
20	 	80.9%	hungarian (behar)	+	19.1%	turk-istanbul (hodoglugil)	@	2.56

Code:

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_European	40.52
2	Atlantic_Med	24.35
3	Caucasus	18.6
4	Gedrosia	6.83
5	Southwest_Asian	6.03
6	Siberian	2.07
7	East_African	0.66
8	East_Asian	0.62
9	South_Asian	0.31

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Hungarians (Behar)	8.95
2	Romanians (Behar)	10.51
3	Bulgarian (Dodecad)	12.11
4	Bulgarians (Yunusbayev)	12.97
5	German (Dodecad)	14.09
6	Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad)	18.63
7	Dutch (Dodecad)	20.02
8	French (Dodecad)	21.18
9	O_Italian (Dodecad)	21.34
10	French (HGDP)	21.55
11	Ukranians (Yunusbayev)	22.33
12	Kent (1000Genomes)	22.37
13	CEU30 (1000Genomes)	22.4
14	N_Italian (Dodecad)	22.49
15	English (Dodecad)	22.59
16	Polish (Dodecad)	23.01
17	Swedish (Dodecad)	23.51
18	British_Isles (Dodecad)	23.76
19	Norwegian (Dodecad)	24.33
20	Argyll (1000Genomes)	24.37

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	84.3%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.7%	Syrians (Behar)	@	2.66
2	 	84.7%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.3%	Iranians (Behar)	@	2.77
3	 	84.6%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.4%	Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar)	@	2.8
4	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Kurd (Dodecad)	@	2.82
5	 	84.8%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.2%	Jordanians (Behar)	@	2.83
6	 	84%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16%	Lebanese (Behar)	@	2.85
7	 	85.9%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.1%	Iraq_Jews (Behar)	@	2.87
8	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Iranian_Jews (Behar)	@	2.91
9	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Iranian (Dodecad)	@	2.97
10	 	84.5%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	15.5%	Kurds (Yunusbayev)	@	3.03
11	 	56.9%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	43.1%	Russian (HGDP)	@	3.15
12	 	85.4%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.6%	Palestinian (HGDP)	@	3.16
13	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar)	@	3.3
14	 	86.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	13.9%	Assyrian (Dodecad)	@	3.31
15	 	63.1%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	36.9%	FIN30 (1000Genomes)	@	3.36
16	 	83.2%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16.8%	Turks (Behar)	@	3.4
17	 	64.2%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	35.8%	Finnish (Dodecad)	@	3.42
18	 	83.1%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	16.9%	Turkmens (Yunusbayev)	@	3.44
19	 	55.4%	O_Italian (Dodecad)	+	44.6%	Mordovians (Yunusbayev)	@	3.45
20	 	85.9%	Hungarians (Behar)	+	14.1%	Georgia_Jews (Behar)	@	3.48

With that Siberian, red Sea and South Asian he seems Tatar mixed. His Baltic is clearly high with low west and east med, much lower than the Romanian average (even when taking into account the ones found with higher west/east med) so he clearly has a recent-ish Eastern European ancestor imo. Very cool though.

**Mingle** · 11-12-2019, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

With that Siberian, red Sea and South Asian he seems Tatar mixed. His Baltic is clearly high with low west and east med, much lower than the Romanian average (even when taking into account the ones found with higher west/east med) so he clearly has a recent-ish Eastern European ancestor imo. Very cool though.

If you take into account that 50% of his ancestry is from Wallachia, his Moldovan side must cluster with Hungarians. But there are some people from Moldova (whether NE Romania or Bessarabia) that cluster in that region such as IncelSlayer for example. Nurzat also posted some Romanian Moldovan results that were plotting quite north (he claimed they were pure Romanian IIRC), so I'd wager to guess this kind of ancestry isn't that rare in the Moldova region. Quite a diverse region.

He may be part Tatar, but it's not anything really recent. Same with East Euro if he has that ancestry. All four of his grandparents were ethnic Romanians from Romania.

**WeirdLookingFellow** · 11-12-2019, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

If you take into account that 50% of his ancestry is from Wallachia, his Moldovan side must cluster with Hungarians. But there are some people from Moldova (whether NE Romania or Bessarabia) that cluster in that region such as IncelSlayer for example. Nurzat also posted some Romanian Moldovan results that were plotting quite north (he claimed they were pure Romanian IIRC), so I'd wager to guess this kind of ancestry isn't that rare in the Moldova region. Quite a diverse region.

He may be part Tatar, but it's not anything really recent. Same with East Euro if he has that ancestry. All four of his grandparents were ethnic Romanians from Romania.

This is my presumption: three quarters full Romanian and one quarter Ukrainian-Tatar ( high Baltic kind if tatar, not basically Russian Turk tatar)

I don't doubt that he could just have high Baltic Buckovinan ancestors. My great-grandma probably did too. But she had an Ukrainian surname, and there are many in that region. At this stage a point must be raised if those Rusyns that lived in north Moldova for so long are part of the average Romanian genotype or if considering their distance from average Romanians outside of that region, that half of Moldova become a cluster of its own.

But there are quite a few high Baltic Romanians popping out of all regions that it becomes a complicated question.

**Mingle** · 11-12-2019, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow

This is my presumption: three quarters full Romanian and one quarter Ukrainian-Tatar ( high Baltic kind if tatar, not basically Russian Turk tatar)

I don't doubt that he could just have high Baltic Buckovinan ancestors. My great-grandma probably did too. But she had an Ukrainian surname, and there are many in that region. At this stage a point must be raised if those Rusyns that lived in north Moldova for so long are part of the average Romanian genotype or if considering their distance from average Romanians outside of that region, that half of Moldova become a cluster of its own.

But there are quite a few high Baltic Romanians popping out of all regions that it becomes a complicated question.

He said that one of his grandparents might be part Bucovinian Ukrainian (so he doesn't have confirmation they exist). So if his grandparent is 1/4 Bucovinan, they can't be more than 1/2 Bucovinan. If they were 1/2 Bucovinan Ukrainian, he'd be 1/8 Ukrainian. But since he's unsure about it, realistically, his Bucovinan grandparent is probably 1/4 or 1/8 Ukrainian which would put him at 1/16 or 1/32 Ukrainian, which is not enough to explain his results. Also, this is assuming his ancestry from Ukraine was Ukrainian and not Romanian. Could've been Romanian from north Bucovina.

1/4 Ukrainian Tatar seems too high given the info he gave. It seems more likely to me personally that his family from northern Moldova just happens to have high Baltic. His Tatar ancestry seems to be distant.

**Leto** · 11-12-2019, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

That's a good point. The reason I thought it was Oltenia (besides the surname) was because when I looked up a few people online with that surname, they were from Oltenia. It was a small sample size but still. That combined with his southern results made me think he was Oltenian. Though his results aren't rare by any means and could be from a neighboring region such as Muntenia or southern Transylvania among some other possibilities. Anyways, I asked him for confirmation, so we'll see if he's Oltenian or not if he decides to reply.

Lol, do you fucking message random Romanians asking them where they are from?